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Old 10-29-2012, 04:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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89 Phazer Steering

Okay so I have a lot of slop in my steering, so here's a video that hopefully shows what the problem is and you guys can tell me how to fix it! Thanks guys.

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Old 10-29-2012, 04:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Check that the bottom end of the steering post is not moving against the bulkhead.
Then check that the tie rod ends are not sloppy.
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Old 10-29-2012, 05:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I can't exactly describe it to you and make sense without refering to part numbers to keep from getting confused. If you can pull up your sled on any of the sled sites like yamahapartshouse.com i will refer to the part numbers from there. It will be under ski when your search your sled. This part 8V0-2382F-02-00 arm front, has a collar and bushing in it that is probably toast the way it looks. If you were to take your skis off and exam the collar going through the ski(around the area of part 53,54,55,48), that area also probably needs new collars and possibly the bushings. the bolt that bolts the ski on should fit snug in the collar.
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could be the picture, but the fact the collars or steering arms seem to be pivoting on the lower portion of the struts is a concern.

1on3off has the right idea going as it appears the collars on the lower portion are shot, in addition to what i think i saw. you may get a better perspective if you jack up the front enough to get the skis off the floor. theres plenty more in there contributing.
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There is a guy out of Michigan that had tons of NOS parts that were a lot cheaper than new. I got almost all of my bushings and collars from him.
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Thanks guys, I'm glad everyone is kind of thinking the same thing. So if I buy bushings and collars for where the arm meets the ski, is that the best place to start? Maybe see how much that fixes things and go from there. I'm just trying to make it a lot better, not eliminate all the problems, that would cost way to much for a spare sled.

And 1on3off, do you know how I can contact that guy in Michigan? Cheap sounds nice.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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So on this website:
http://www.yamahapartsnation.com/pag...PZ480N_-_1989)
I'm thinking a couple of 55's and a 48 for each side, does that look right?
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That will get you started. I sent you a message that would be just a little more than what those few parts would cost with shipping.
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Just to get other's opinions, if I buy a kit with all the bushings I need near the arms and skis, will that fix most of my problems?
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If not, it should eliminate a great deal of it.
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if I buy a kit with all the bushings

There's a kit?
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:52 AM   #12 (permalink)
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just do the obvious first. Yamada Already said what needs saying
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I found a kit on eBay that will replace all the bushings in the TSS suspension, for any Yamaha with them. I was able to contact the company outside of eBay and do the sale privately, so if people are interested they can contact B&K Motorsports and see if they have any more kits. They make the bushings themselves and it was $70 shipped.

Their number is 440-965-4912

When I get the bushings I'm sure I'll be ready to ask everyone some more questions.
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Ya I'm already spraying the PB, hopefully an early start with it will help a little. I'm just about sure all of these bolts get sheared off. 6000 miles and 23 years of rust is going to put up a heck of a fight.
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Ya I'm already spraying the PB, hopefully an early start with it will help a little. I'm just about sure all of these bolts get sheared off. 6000 miles and 23 years of rust is going to put up a heck of a fight.
I had 13000 miles and 25 years of build up. You will snap a few bolts. A few days of PB and it will drastically help. You will need 2 drill bits. A 9/16 and a 37/64 bit to do this. When you get closer I will walk you through it.


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13000!!! If you could get the job done it gives me a little more hope.
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I bought the kit, but there is no instructions as to what goes where, When it warms up a bit in Ontario I'll get into it and let you know how it worked out.
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