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Old 10-23-2012, 01:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Phazer 116 to 121?

i have a skid from a xlv 540 and i wanted to put it in my sled for a little more travel. i need to know will it bolt right up still. or do i need to mod it
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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not a direct bolt in, mount points need to be relocated.

dont forget to factor in extending the tunnel and relocating the rear bumper, along with required backing and support.
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What about the drive axel?
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What about the drive axel?
same axle, same drivers. nothing needed there. the skid just moved back about 2 1/2" and some different brackets used at the rear.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Do you still plan on doing it? I would like to hear more about the process. And has anyone ever put a 136" on a Phazer? That'd be something to see.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Do you still plan on doing it? I would like to hear more about the process. And has anyone ever put a 136" on a Phazer? That'd be something to see.
have a 136 in my shop with 1 3/4 track lugs, but then cut them down to 1 1/2". used a polaris 133 skid and relocated it back a few.

did a full set back with the 116 skid to 136 but i havent any test time on the sled nor a tunnel extension or bumper.

the phazer was offered from the factory in 91 with the 136 nothing lug track. it is the "ST" model.
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Old 10-25-2012, 04:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well, heck if that's the case skip the 121" and go big! If I ever get my Phazer in decent shape I'll have to consider that.
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The 121 is coming from a xlv 2 up sled. I never have reloctoned a skid before. I'm kinda of scared of doing it. I need help anyone wanna help me and walk me though it.
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Can I keep the front hole the same but move it back
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Well, heck if that's the case skip the 121" and go big! If I ever get my Phazer in decent shape I'll have to consider that.
I wonder if a 136" would really cut the power/performance down. They're not overly powered to begin with...

Sounds like all the Phazer tracks were "nothing lugs" at least thru the early '90s. I know my daughter's is, that is until I swap out the track with one from 'dad.............
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The 121 is coming from a xlv 2 up sled. I never have reloctoned a skid before. I'm kinda of scared of doing it. I need help anyone wanna help me and walk me though it.
first and foremost is having the dimensions from the donor sled. without those numbers it can be a shot in the dark and a swiss cheesed tunnel.

the rest is geometrical and relative to positions. more than likely utilizing the original front mount holes wont happen, but there is a chance.

another concern would be the shock springs on a 2 up sled. do to the weight factor on the phazers, unless your a big ole boy, you may be looking at a bouncy ride.

relocates can be intimidating at a first glance but not really as bad as it appears. carefull measuring, the right tools and some guidance you can easily work through it.
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I wonder if a 136" would really cut the power/performance down. They're not overly powered to begin with...

Sounds like all the Phazer tracks were "nothing lugs" at least thru the early '90s. I know my daughter's is, that is until I swap out the track with one from 'dad.............
quite the opposite with my experiments. takes some tuning and gearing but i am amazed at how that sled performs. i cant keep the skis on the ground and the kids cant seem to make it turn at low speeds, but i am not done adjusting the skid.

keep in mind my front yard is just under 3000' and we ride to well over 6000'. at 6'3" and 190 in my underwear, add another 20+ lbs for riding clothes plus a backpack, that little sled goes where the big sleds go and its fun to ride. polaris aint got nothing on the phazer for "flickable" or "rider input".
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
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So far i got the skid out and the 121 skid cleaned up and greased up. i gotta take the chaincase off so i can get my drive axle out and track. so i can put the new one in there. im gonna leave the front holes the same and just move the back brackets 21/2 inches back. and it should bolt right up in there. Just worried about my running boards and support for the back brackets and the tunnel extension. I need help and some support from you guys thanks!
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:50 PM   #14 (permalink)
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dont forget the 121 skids used a crosshaft to support the track. that will be your easiest part.

your good with the front holes assuming the donor sled was the same at about 8 7/8" back from the center of the driveshaft. key number to have or the skid wont work.

same brackets at the rear between the 116 pz'z and the 121's. as you already figured out, they need to move back 2 3/8". you have room there for the move, you just need to figure a method to attach them as well as the factory did. look closely at the rivets you will be removing and you will see they are buck style not pop rivets, for a reason-strength.
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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New problem. A 136" skid is being dropped in from a rmk. But i dont have no dimensions from the donor sled. how bad of a problem is this gonna be
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