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Old 01-05-2011, 03:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Track and undercarriage swap.

We just picked up a 1990 phazer for cheap but the track is terrible. My brother plans on driving it, but its missing chuncks off the track. He has a 89 exciter that he messed up, would the track swap over or would we have to swap and relocate the undercarriage into the phazer?
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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your borderline on the year for having the 121 vs 116 track on the phazer. the exciter will be a 121. if the pz is the 121, the track will fit no problem. quick way to confirm is simply count the lugs inside the track or the windows on the pz's track and multiply by 2.52. this is a guaranteed length.
hopefully the phazer experts will chime in and confirm what year they went from 116-121.
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Old 01-05-2011, 07:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I won't have a chance to look at it till tomorrow, but if it does have a 116 track on it are they hard to find?
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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they can be found but they can be spendy.
i would consider transplanting the exciter skid if its in good shape into the phazer. they are very similar, just different mounting points. straightforward swap if you can drill, rivet and measure. even easier with the donor sled close at hand.
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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One of the guys I work with says if its a phazer 2 it will have a 121 track on it, and it does say phazer 2 on the side, but I will still count the lugs and see, If it is a 116 I will probably just swap out the undercarriage, I dont think it would be too bad as lomg as it all lines up and runs straight. Plus my brother had just changed the slides, shocks and some boggey whells on the other undercarriage and its studded.
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Old 01-06-2011, 01:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I counted the lugs and did the math and it does have a 121 track on it. Would I still have to relocate the mounts for the carriage swap or would it be better to just change the track. I'm gonna start it on friday so I think I can figure it out.
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Old 01-06-2011, 09:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
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if your skid is in good shape, just swap tracks. its alot easier. the skids needs to come out anyways on both sleds to get the tracks out so you will soon know the conditions.
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The skid and drive gears all came out of the exciter without a single issue. I have the phazer tore apart finally and the only issue I had was the bearing on the drive shaft on the side where the speedo hooks up was stuck on the shaft pretty tight. I just heated it up and let it cool down a few times and tapped it off with a plastic hammer. I planned on replacing the bearing while it was apart anyways, and I'm gonna change the slides while apart but otherwise it looks to be in good shape. I'm actually suprised that it wasn't really all that bad to take apart. I'm gonna put it back together tomorrow and align the track and adjust tension, are there any tricks to that or is it something you just have to make small adjustments to you get it right. If its already been covered I apologize, just trying to educate myself on sleds a little. I've lived in the south till this winter so I'm having a blast riding and figuring out how they work. Thanks for all the help. Safe riding,
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
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the only trick is to make sure the track is even side to side on the rails and the tension is not too tight. measure from the track lugs to the rails, do not use the wheels.

put 2-1 gallon jugs of water in the center of the track and look for about an 1 1/2 gap between the hyfax and the track at about midpoint on the rails.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Well its all back together. It was a little bit harder to put the skid back in then to take it out, but i adjusted the track to it had an even gap on each side, and I did the milk jug trick. I spun the track around some and checked it a few times and it seems to be running straight. Its a totally different sled with a real track on it, and I'm glad I didn't pay someone to do it.
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not to mention the self satisfaction of doing your own work and learning a bit along the way. have fun!
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