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Old 12-17-2010, 09:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1996 vmax 600

Thinking of purchasing a 96 vmax 600. The asking price is 1100.00 with 4500 miles. How does it compare to 95 formula z 583 which is what I have now and I'd like to get rid of it because I find it to heavy. Are there any issues with the vmax that I should know about?
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Old 12-17-2010, 10:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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the vmaxs are also pretty heavy id look it all over and see if u can tell how the owner treated it if its been beat to piss id wait and see if u can find sumthin better
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Old 12-17-2010, 10:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Its a matter of personal preferance but i would avoid The Yamaha TSS. That is the Telescopic front suspension aka pogo stick. I think its a bad design, there are too many parts and they wear out fast leading too sloppy steering. I beleive 1997 they changed to trailing arm suspension, which everyone else had been using for 20 years by then. So i would look for a 1997 or newer. Good luck.
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Old 12-17-2010, 11:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have a friend that just bought the 96 VMAX 600 for $800 Cad $$ with 2000km and in very good condition. A 20 year old sled should never be more than $1000.00, regardless of mileage.

I just bought a 92 Mach Z 617 2up with 5000k on it, mint shape, good trac, plastic ski, seat great shape, good compression, i paid $1000,

I was too late on the VMAX (2 days)

But i have been told bad things about them, suspension issues...very heavy....etc

I'd stay with the 583 my self!! You know it runs and you know the condition too!!!!!

Dont fix what aint broken.
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Old 12-17-2010, 12:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Excellent, glad I posted here before buying it. think I will stick with the formula til I can afford something newer. Thankyou
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Old 12-17-2010, 12:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Don't entirely discount it yet... The vmax engines are rock solid, probably some of the best out. And you can swap in a polaris extra-10 suspension in about an hour. Yeah the front end still sucks, but the x10 swap makes a HUGE difference! (also lightens it up some)
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Old 12-17-2010, 12:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Ya but everything is sold on the Skii Doo, those 583's are BULLET PROOF!!! I got 2, a 617 (big 583) and a 670 (small 700) and they are rock solid, you cant hurt'em!!! Even when you try!!!!
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Old 12-17-2010, 02:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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idk i hevent had any problems with my 600 vmax since i got the carbs set n clutch fixed these things can take a hell of a beating but the downfall is the suspensions in the front sux and theyr heavy, does the xtra 10 suspension bolt rite up or wuld i have fabricate it to fit?
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Old 12-17-2010, 02:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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exactly the carbs and clutch fixed.... we could go back and forth forever here...LOL fine both good machines, but why sell what you got that you know is in good condition for something that could be a problem. They are both heavy.....
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
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does the xtra 10 suspension bolt rite up or wuld i have fabricate it to fit?
(reposting my post from another site... summary is that its fairly easy)

So after the stock suspension on my '95 vmax finally died (shock was 100% dead), I decided it was time to finally get off my butt and swap in the xtra 10 suspension I bought used last year for $60.

I managed to swap it by drilling ONE hole in the tunnel on each side. For the front, I used some 3"x9" 1/8th inch thick steel and bolted it to two conveniently open holes, and then drilled a 3rd hole as the actual axle hole. This also allowed me to get 100% perfect alignment, I did one side, and then swapped mounting plates using the same holes as a template.

For the rear, I was able to re-use one of the rear holes that the stock suspension used. Again, same 3x9 steel reinforcement plates, with two bolts into 2 of the stock suspension mounting holes, and the 3rd hole for the axle bolt.

(if you look really close on the pic, you can see the 4 stainless steel bolts used to hold the reinforcement plate, and if you squint some, you can see the black bolts holding the suspension itself.)

Anyway, long story short, I should have done this swap earlier! The ride is VERY, VERY good. I need to work on the weight transfer some though, it doesn't take much throttle to lift the skis a foot in the air! It is officially a yamalaris now, I'm running polaris suspension and a polaris p85 clutch
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone for the reply's. I think Ive decided to spend a few extra bucks and go with a 98 700 triple. Unless someone know of some major issues with this sled. It looks good on the utube videos. Is there anything I should know about this sled?
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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lots of people do not like triples... one more carb to cause problems, higher chance of burning the thing up, more weight...

with that said, you will drive yourself nuts if you try and find the 'best' sled! buy it and hit the snow!
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Old 12-17-2010, 06:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I would have to say that the VMAX 600 will be more reliable than the skidoo! Everyone I have ever spoken with regarding snowmobiles say that the older Yamaha Vmax 500 and 600's were the most reliable sleds built. Even guys that own snowmobile repair shops confirm this.
But Im sure it really depends on how things are taken care of!
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Old 12-17-2010, 09:59 PM   #14 (permalink)
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"I would have to say that the VMAX 600 will be more reliable than the skidoo! Everyone I have ever spoken with regarding snowmobiles say that the older Yamaha Vmax 500 and 600's were the most reliable sleds built. Even guys that own snowmobile repair shops confirm this.
But Im sure it really depends on how things are taken care of!"

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