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Burning out sliders

Well hopefully I will get an answer to this thread. With my possible purchase of a vmax 600 , i was thinking that this year we have no snow on the ice and I know this is bad for the sliders.

In a royal distributing catalogue they have a product that scratches the ice as you drive and sprays the sliders to keep them cool.

Any Idea how these work and if its worth it?

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i use them on all my sleds, yes they work, yes they are worth it. i use holtz, rsi, and some from the billet store. dont know what type royal sells.
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Keep an eye on your sliders and if they get bad, replace them.

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I have 'em on all my sleds too. The scratchers throw up ice chips to help cool the engine and the chips melt and provide lubrication for longer hyfax life.

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Can anyone post a pic of the scratchers installed on a sled. I have never seen them on a sled.

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Here's a link to a site that has three different types compared... google is your friend

Scratching the Snow

I have the Slidekicks on the sled in my avatar, if you have REALLY good vision, you can see 'em dangling just below the track

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Do they mount in an existing hole or do you have to drill a hole?

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Sometimes there's a convenient hole that will work.Some guys remove a bogey wheel and put the scratchers in that hole. I have used existing holes and have drilled holes as well. With the slidekicks, I drilled holes on the 3 sleds I have installed those on.

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They work great, you can also try Hiper-fax sliders, these are pricey but last longer, and the key thing to remember with ice scratchers is most of them need to be pulled up before using reverse!

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Even better, here a Youtube comparison between store bought scratchers and a cheap redneck solution that works better than all of them
YouTube - snowmobile scratcher tip

Sometimes, the simpler solutions are the best.

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I have a ? about replacing the slides....is it just a matter of just removing the rail end caps, and putting the slides on, or do I need to loosen the track first? Mine are wore down to the bare metal, but the rails and track clips look good, so in theory, the new slides will take up any slack if the track is a little loose, or ???

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ANswer to your question about the slides. Check if they fit through the track window, if they do they make a slide hammer that screws in the back of your slide. They just pull out the back of your sled. Just loosen the nut up in the front of rail, and pull the bolt out. Otherwise you have to take the skid out, and yes the new slides should take the slack up in your track.
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I have a ? about replacing the slides....is it just a matter of just removing the rail end caps, and putting the slides on, or do I need to loosen the track first? Mine are wore down to the bare metal, but the rails and track clips look good, so in theory, the new slides will take up any slack if the track is a little loose, or ???
hyfax will come out the back through the track windows, not out the front by removing the caps. install them through the track windows. if yours are that shot, simply cut them off the rails with a sharp utility knife, taking care not to damage the rails. loosening the track helps a bunch. new hyfax will or should not change the tension of the track. worst isssue you will have is removing the #3 phillips screws that hold the hyfax on at the front of the rails. they are normally locktited in and the steel screws in the aluminum rails like to sieze in there. have an impact ready.
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If your sled has reverse, it's even easier. Jack the rear, loosen your track as much as possible, remove the front retaining screws, start moving one of the slides out through a track window (an air zip gun works great or use a hammer and chisel/screwdriver), when you have a couple inches sticking out through the window, start the sled, put it in reverse and give it a LITTLE gas. The slide will peel right off. Repeat for the other slide.

This video shows the whole process, including installation:
YouTube - Nytro Hyfax J's Garage

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Finally got the slides on. What an ordeal. She`s running and riding great now. Thanx for the help!

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