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1989 Yamaha Phazer Ignition Switch

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Would anyone happen to know how to replace the ignition switch on a 1989 Yamaha Phazer snowmobile?

I'm not 100% sure I'm using to correct term- so it's hard to find information searching the web. Maybe it's called the ignition assembly?

Here is a picture of the part I need to replace, I was trying to pull the key out and part of the swtich broke and came out with key in it.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7...tionswitch.jpg

What all do I need to take off the sled to get the old switch out?

How hard is it to replace this part?

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Also, If I disconnected the wiring harness and took the switch completely out- would that eleminate the need to have a key to start it?

How would I disconnect the harness, which parts would I have to take off to get to it?

Here are more pics of the switch in case they are useful

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9249/dsc00005zs.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9404/dsc00002xb.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4846/dsc00006mm.jpg

Also, to avoid any confusion- the first pic in my first post is of a switch I found on Ebay- I still have myswich installed and have not taken it out.


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just take the switch out and leave the connection just sitting there unplugged. i did that recently but i just replaced the key switch with one from an old briggs and stratton lawn mower. you can see it here in the vid i made of my sled. YouTube - 1989 Yamaha Phazer
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Hey, I saw your video on Youtube last night-


I thought it was cool the very day I search Youtube for an 89 phazer ignition issue- you just happened to post one a few hours earlier. What are the chances.

Anyways- when I try to pull the switch out (after unscrewing the plastic nut)- it won't come out, so I'm assuming I have to take off the whole plastic piece that covers/surrounds the choke/gas tank/shutoff valve? I don't see any other way of getting to it.

If I do disconnect the switch- will it still start?

Also- is the gas shut-off valve supposed to pulled towards me or pushed away from me in order for the machine to run?

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yes you will have to remove the plastic cowling that surrounds it. or at least be able to lift it up somewhat to pull the switch out. and on my phazer the primer is pushed up towards the handlebars and then down once started. and once the switch is unplugged it should still start. at least mine did. and you'll have to cover up the hole with something so snow doesnt get in.

edit- i will go out and take pictures of what you'll have to remove to get the switch out and post them in an hour or so.

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well i dont know but my camera takes to high of resolution pictures and the site wont let me upload them. im sure you can find the screws that hold all the plastic on. there are only 2 screws on each side of the sled holding it on. they're all phillips head screws.
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Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not exactly sure what each switch/valve does.

So the primer is the same thing as the starter, right? I lift it up to start it, then push back down once it's running. What about the red lever on the right hand side of the sled- I assumed that was the fuel shut-off valve? Here is a pic, please correct me if I'm confused about the name of each.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5774/pic1ox.jpg


If it is indeed the shut-off valve, then do I need to have it pushed away from me or pulled towards me.

I've been trying to start the machine, but I have several things working against me-

I don't know if the ignition is turned on- so I need to unhook it like you said.

I don't know if the fuel is shut off to the engine

I don't know which posistion the starter should be in (I do now, thanks to you)

Also to top it all off- there's gas in it from last year, which just contributes to it not starting.

Yep, saw the two phillips-head screws. You can use an image editor to resize your photos, thanks for the effort anyways.

Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the help.
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You are correct, you have the parts labeled correctly.

Use the "img" code from the drop menu, rather than the "http" code.
That will display the picture right in the post.

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ok im about to resize the images and upload them so i can better explain what you have to do.
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ok so in the first two pics you can see the four phillips head screws holding the plastic onto the body. one on the top then the other on the side of the tunnel. you have to take those out. there will also be four phillips head screws holding the plastic over the handlebars. thats gotta come off too. once all the plastic is lifted up so you can at least see underneath in the last picture is the switch. just unplug it and take it out and just leave the unplugged wire under all the plastic. now you mentioned a fuel shut-off switch on the handlebars. thats actually the killswitch and must be pulled up for the sled to start. now in the third and four pictures is the choke/primer. all it does is help with cold starts. pull it up before you start and down once the sled is started.
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Thanks for the pics/explanation- I thought it was the only the two phillips screws that needed to come out, didn't know about the handlebars.

I got all the screws out and was able to lift up the plastic on the left side enough to look under there, but not enough to see the ignition switch/wire.

I tried to take the whole thing off or at least be able to lift up the right side a little bit, but the fuel shut off valve is connected on that side. Do I have to disconnect it to get the plastic off or raise it up. There doesn't seem to be any extra line to play with. Have no clue how to do that. Here is a pic.

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I tried the IMG code from the drop down menu, but it didn't seem to work.

Here is the pic link

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my phazer doesnt have one of those switches. well when you pull up the plactic just reach under to where the switch is and then follow the wire about 8 inches to a connector unlug an pull out ignition

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http://www.snowmobileforum.com/attac...h-100_0718.jpg

thats all you need to take out. nothing else.

Mine - 1989 Yamaha Phazer 485 w/ Comet 102C and boyesen power reeds. 14,356 kms.

Dads - 1997 Yamaha V-max XT 600 stock w/ polaris P-85 clutch

Brothers - on its way home soon! either a yamaha or skidoo. not sure what yet.


First ride of the 2009/2010 season - 11/12/09
09/10 km's - over 1200. pretty good for only half a seasons worth of riding.
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Hey,

I got the switch out without too much trouble a couple of weeks ago.

Still waiting to put a new one in.

Thanks a lot for the help.
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no problem. glad i could help you out.

Mine - 1989 Yamaha Phazer 485 w/ Comet 102C and boyesen power reeds. 14,356 kms.

Dads - 1997 Yamaha V-max XT 600 stock w/ polaris P-85 clutch

Brothers - on its way home soon! either a yamaha or skidoo. not sure what yet.


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