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Old 01-30-2008, 07:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi I Am Looking At Buying A Venture Mp Do You Know Anything About This Sled With Regard To Dependability And Gas. How It Handle And How It Is In Snow. Any Info Would Be Great
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I rode a 2007 Venture 2up a couple of times and loved the powerband of it but didnt like the steering but that could be due to the fact that it was a 2up and weights 600lbs.
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Im not sure what a, "Venture MP" is, but Im pretty sure you are talking about the Venture Lite (the one thats based on the Phazer).
Its a decent sled. Its a little bit underpowered for a 2-up, but as long as you dont plan on winning any races it works fine.
For the most part they are pretty reliable, but some people have had issues with the clips in the airbox rattling out, falling down inside of the engine and damaging the valves. More recently Ive started to hear reports of engine failures on the Yamaha Genesis 80FI engine. It seems that for some reason, the connecting rod caps are coming off and basically the engine throws a rod.
Also, just like all other '05+ Yamahas, the handwarmers arent all that good.
Me personally, I would question the long-term durability of an engine that turns 11,000+ rpm.
I think Id be taking a look at the RS Venture that uses the 120 hp triple. That sled has been absoutely reliabile even since it came out and I wouldnt have any concerns whatsoever about that sled.
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Im not sure what a, "Venture MP" is, but Im pretty sure you are talking about the Venture Lite (the one thats based on the Phazer).
Its a decent sled. Its a little bit underpowered for a 2-up, but as long as you dont plan on winning any races it works fine.
For the most part they are pretty reliable, but some people have had issues with the clips in the airbox rattling out, falling down inside of the engine and damaging the valves. More recently Ive started to hear reports of engine failures on the Yamaha Genesis 80FI engine. It seems that for some reason, the connecting rod caps are coming off and basically the engine throws a rod.
Also, just like all other '05+ Yamahas, the handwarmers arent all that good.
Me personally, I would question the long-term durability of an engine that turns 11,000+ rpm.
I think Id be taking a look at the RS Venture that uses the 120 hp triple. That sled has been absoutely reliabile even since it came out and I wouldnt have any concerns whatsoever about that sled.

yes thanks for the info. the venture is the multi purpose and is this problem with the new 2008 as well. i'm not concerned with speed at all a factor is gas and comfort. i live in labrador and do a lot of snowmobiling. i will take a closer look before i buy. your info was very helpful. is there any problems you are aware of with the rs venture.
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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yes thanks for the info. the venture is the multi purpose and is this problem with the new 2008 as well. i'm not concerned with speed at all a factor is gas and comfort. i live in labrador and do a lot of snowmobiling. i will take a closer look before i buy. your info was very helpful. is there any problems you are aware of with the rs venture.
The problem I spoke of is on '08s as well. From what I have been told, the problem is that if the sled is tipped over, the crank bearings starve for oil, which damages them and eventually they distort to the point where the stud that hold the rod caps on break and the engine throws a rod.
About the airbox clips, I understand there is an update in that they put washers under the clips and that is supposed to keep them for ratting out.
Overall I think the Venture Lite ("Multi Purpose, as you call it) is a comfortable sled. There only thing that might concern me about it is wind protection. Im sure that it gets pretty cold in Labrador. I recall seeing an episode of the TV show, "Survivorman" (basically they drop this guy in the middle of nowhere and he shows you how to survive) where they were in Labrador and they commented that the temps can get as cold as -60 Ferenheit. I dont know about you, but I think thats pretty darned cold. Anyways, the Venture MP doesnt exactly have the best wind protection there is, so that might be an issue.
Also, being that its a 4-stroke, Im not sure if it would even start in those temps. Last year over on another forum there was a guy who was constantly saying that when it got below -30 F, his Venture Lite wouldnt start. He even put up videos or him cranking and cranking to prove it wouldnt start in the cold.
Here is the video: YouTube - Venture Lite Hard Start 1 of 3
If I lived where you live, I think Id be looking at a fan-cooled 2-stroke sled. They are much simpler and very reliable. and parts should be pretty easy to come by because they have been made forever.
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Old 02-02-2008, 08:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi thank again for all you help. i personally seen this snowmobile start at -37 degree temperatures. i when to the yamaha dealer to test the demo and the sled was in an unheated warehouse. It didnt start the first turn of the key but after about 5 trys. however saying that the reverse on the snowmobile wouldnt engage until the engine was running for about 1 minute. i only drove the sled for about a couple fo minutes. i plan to take it for another spin before i decide. you have me intrested with the rs venture. It cost more but the engine is proven like you said. with regards to four stoke this day you almost have to buy four stroke with the price of gas. were i live it's 1.23L not cheap for two strokes. i personally will be only using this sled for pleasure and light haulage. not jumping and mountain climbing not really into that anymore. they do recommend putting block engine heater on the sled for cold temperatures.Going to test the rs venture before i make up my mind. thanks again
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Id definetly go with the RS Venture if it were me. I also would consider a Arctic Cat Z1R Jag and a Polaris FS.
The Polaris FS is a good sled. Its only about 80 hp, but it gets 25 mpg and is rock-solid reliable.
Im not saying to not buy a Yamaha, but everyone makes good sleds nowdays, so why limit yourself?
I used to be a pretty big Yamaha fan, but Ive lost my faith in them. IMO, their quality has slipped. Plus, Ive had some really bad experiences with poor customer service from Yamaha dealers.
I ride a Polaris now, have had good luck with it, have had good experiences with Polaris dealers and I will most likely stick with Polaris.
Best of luck with whatever you end up with.
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It Was A Hard Decision But I Have Owned My Venture Multi Purpose Sled For About 4 Days Now And What A Terrific Ride, Great Handling And Great Gas Milage. On The First Tank I Went 200 Km And Added 20 L Of Gas. I Did The Calculations And I Should Of Had About 2.5 Gals Of Gas Left In The Tank. I Added A Block Heater For The Colder Temps But No Problems Yet. Seems To Be Great In Deep Snow So Far But I Cant Wait For Some Powder To Try It Out That Will Be The True Test. I Tried Out A Skidoo Expediation Sport But Only Drove It For About 2 Min And I Hated It. The Engine Was So Quiet That All You Could Hear Was The Skis On The Snow I Would Much Rather Hear The Engine. The Handling Sucked To Say The Least. Happy Yamaha Owner. Thanks For All You Help.
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Hello Rebel,
I have questions about your Venture MP.

-Really how good is it in really deep snow, I hear that 12 inch ski covers are availible have you tried them?

- Can you really get better than 10liters / hundred Km on gas miliage?

-does it turn well in the thick bush?

-does it pull heavy loads well, geared low enough?

-does it back up well in the deep snow?

- have you had any mechanical failures?

- do you do your own maintenance (oil changes, valve adjustments etc) and is the machine accesible and well designed for its mechanic?

Ok that a lot of questions, just that of all the writer I have read from on this post, you seem to have a very unbiased view of that machine, thus your comments will be appreciated.

I have just put down a $500 deposit on a new 2009 Venture MP, and would just like to know how satisfied you are with you Venture MP now that you have had more chance to ride it.

Last spring I sold my 2003 Skandic 600(SUV) wide track, it was a 20x 156 inch machine with over 100HP and basically I loved it. Though like always there were a few items that I didn't like, the number one problem was the gas milliage. Running through deep snow I would ofter use about 28 liters of gas to do 75KM, I found that was just too expensive. I also found that machine was heavy and took a lot of room to turn, and was a rough ride for the few times that I went on the big trails.

I was strongly considerring to buy the new Tundra 550, either the LT or the sport model, they are very popular with my friends. Though I am tired of 2 stroker smokers. I wanted a good thumper this time though didn't want to pay over $11K for an new and unproven Tundra ACE. As well I wanted to buy a Yamaha instead because I have more confidence in the proven Yamaha fourstroke engine as they have been building them for a really long time as, I am very impressed with the engine in my FZ1 (motorcycle) as well what I had in my YZF (motorcycle). Thus to say that I want to try something other that a SKI DOO this time, and for my purpose I think that the Venture MP suits me the best.

Ok sure the Venture MP is not a powerful machine, is not the lightest, and may not be the best in deep snow which is very important for me. However it has proven technology, I like the look, has superior gas millage according the the few reviews that I have read, and could be a fantastic trail sled should I decide to purchase a season pass this year. As well weighing in at almost 600 pounds I think that it will be a great machine for hauling firewood with my dad. Sure it won't be as good as my dads Skandic WT for working, but I hope that it will be good enough. mainly I want the best all rounder machine, and I think that this is it. Oh not to mention that I just baught a brand new 2009 for only $8100, wow ah.

Ok gents if you have a Venture MP or have had one, I'd really like to hear all about you experiences.

Thanks,

Ray
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