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Old 02-26-2006, 08:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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a skidoo vs. a yamaha

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how are the 4 strokes holdin up compare to the 2 strokes. im thinkin about a nytro or ski doo mxz idk which is better, there both great sleds!
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Old 02-26-2006, 01:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I just got back into sledding after 11 years, a lot has changed in that time, i was looking at the same decision as you the rev style ride is pretty sweet, two stroke or four stroke its a tough choice, if you go on the skidoo forum all they talk about is how there sleds are the best.......but there also talking about how all of theres blew up!!!!!!!!! im not bashing skidoo but i took that in consideration, thats what led me to buy the 2006 attack, its an awesome machine lots of power comfy ride, i like it a lot, sure its got some issues like ALL OF THEM, and all of them have there pros and cons, and there all gonna break, so go down to your dealer and just buy a sled!!!!!!!!!!!! good luck and have fun......
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Old 02-26-2006, 02:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would personally get a MXZ SDI H.O. They get really good milage (around 18mpg), nice ride, lots of power, and ski-doo has a great rep. I think yami is one of the bottom sleds at this time. They have really nothing going for them. There 1000's run in a 600 clas (minus the apex's). Some day they will get there act straight. Maybe... Just my thoughts. Although the Apex RTX looks tits. But the MXZ's (adrenaline "X") Look good too.
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Old 02-26-2006, 06:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I would personally get a MXZ SDI H.O. They get really good milage (around 18mpg), nice ride, lots of power, and ski-doo has a great rep. I think yami is one of the bottom sleds at this time. They have really nothing going for them. There 1000's run in a 600 clas (minus the apex's). Some day they will get there act straight. Maybe... Just my thoughts. Although the Apex RTX looks tits. But the MXZ's (adrenaline "X") Look good too.
One of the bottom sleds? I think they have a pretty good rep for being one of the most reliable machines you can buy.
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Old 02-26-2006, 08:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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im going to have to agree with triple, as an arctic cat owner i know that my next sled will be a yamaha. No question. Their fit and finish and my personal experience with their reliability is second to none. I dont think we need to go into detail again about 2stroke vs 4 stroke and how it's just like dirt bikes as far as cc's and power, i sure as hell know im not going to...

After personally riding an Apex and a rev, i would choose yamaha, hands down.
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Old 02-26-2006, 08:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I have a Nytro and I ride with lots of ski-doos and they are revs and one is a SDI and it almost gets about the samw mpg but then you have to think about oil and oil for a sdi is not cheap. Also the suspension on them are both great. The only thing is the rev is more rider forward than the 120 hp but when u get into the 10 hp yamahas its the same rider forward position. The Nytros power is great it goes 0-80 faster than a 600 rev not sure about an 800 but still people say its a 1000 vs a 600 but rember the engine is different and add 100 pounds. But they are both great sleds i would ride them and find out and both manufactures are going to be in Munising Mar.10.
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I would personally get a MXZ SDI H.O. They get really good milage (around 18mpg), nice ride, lots of power, and ski-doo has a great rep. I think yami is one of the bottom sleds at this time. They have really nothing going for them. There 1000's run in a 600 clas (minus the apex's). Some day they will get there act straight. Maybe... Just my thoughts. Although the Apex RTX looks tits. But the MXZ's (adrenaline "X") Look good too.
When you say they have nothing going for them,what do you mean? Yamaha has tons of money,they support evey type of recreation,and they are die hard machines! Polaris I think is the one that doesn't have a lot going for them,the only sled they have worth talking about is the 600,period! When you try and compare a 600 2 stroke to a 1000 4 stroke your not comparing apples to apples. Sounds like a HUGE difference,but really they are the same,two VERY different kinds of power. This is my first year on Yamaha after 10 years on Polaris and I am not turning back. The Yamaha is the BEST running snowmobile I've had in the last 5 years,bar none! I like the Skidoos,but when riding long miles nothing beats gasing up and going like the Yamahas! Go Blue!
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Old 02-27-2006, 12:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I have been having the same problem as you. Ski doo or yami. I never really gave much thought to yamaha because everyoen said the RX1 was uncomfortable as all hell, sat to low. Then i did some reading on the apex and it gets decent reviews. Has its cons but it is reliable. teh doo in itself is a good sled but they have reliability issues with thier motors. The problem is when they blow they blow big and take the whole motor with them when they go. So we'll see if i like the yami i will be riding a yamaha apex er next year. If i dont i might just take my chances with doo and hope for the best some guys get 3000+ miles before they go but if i can get a realiable 4 stroke sled for the same price then i'll do it.
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Old 02-27-2006, 09:25 AM   #10 (permalink)
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The Apex's are very comfortable to ride. The only gripe I have with the ride is when I stand the handlebars could be an inch or two taller. I'm just over 6 feet tall,it's alright otherwise,but I do stand a lot when trails are rough,I can deal with it. Rear suspension isn't too bad. Monoshock holds it's own decently,but on rougher trails it kicks you sometimes. I'd be interested in the RTX next year with the Proaction rear,but I think I am downsizing to a Nytro next year,just don't need the power,I've only cranked it wideopen a half dozen times or so this year and sounds like the Nytro has some pretty good performance too.
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Old 02-27-2006, 08:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thumbs up I have rode both

I have put over 1800 miles on in the last 6 weeks and say Yamaha because:

1. The Skidoo 600 EFI I rode with was almost identical MPG, We were always within 1/2 MPG of each other. He runs high test, I run lower octane. It is broke in, mine is not. I rode Artic Cats .

2. In a drag I can take him out of the hole. Then even steven into 90's. ( Also a Polaris 900 took a couple hundred feet to pass me, it sucked on ride..) Low end torque is great.

3. The mono-shock ride is great, but thats up to tunning on each sled. Rev may be better in cornors, you pay for it in shoulders. Yammi is a different setup. I will take my stock windsheild over a REV any day. The APEX windsheild is not warm though a Yammi. All low windsheilds suck below ZERO.

4. I HAVE NOT ADDED ANY OIL SINCE OIL CHANGE))

5. Weight is not an issue with the 120 class. Lift them, and check charts.

6. If you need more, ridem like you stole it.
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i don't beleive that you have to run premium in the doo's.
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Old 03-01-2006, 06:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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how can yamaha be at the bottom if they are the ones inovating the 4-strokes, and i dont care what anybody says, 4-strokes are going to take over! they are WAY better in every way except wieght (and they are getting better with that). My next sled is going to be a 4-stroke Yamaha FOR SURE!!!!!
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i don't beleive that you have to run premium in the doo's.


You dont have to they have a knock sensor i think thats what its called but it knows what type of gas in it yamaha has it to pit with lower quality you do lose a little hp
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say what

yamaha4ever I bet I have a 600ho that well spank your sled then rape it with at least 10 sled lengths in 660 ft. O did i mention i trail ride it and it has never blown up...
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Really why are you buying a sled??? Is it just to be the fastest???
I too want a sled that is fast, That Is really really reliable, Gets great gas milage and has great resale value. To me that adds up to the Nytro. If you look at what has happened in the atv world 4 strokes are it now. We fought that too......But How many banshees are yamaha selling today compared to raptors?? I have had 2 raptors and several other 4 strokes atvs and still have some 1970s atc 3wheelers and they still run great. You spend your money where you want but one test ride on the Nytro was all it took for me. It rides great, its fast and it will last.
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Just think if we all had snow we could ride rather than type........
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I would personally get a MXZ SDI H.O. They get really good milage (around 18mpg), nice ride, lots of power, and ski-doo has a great rep. I think yami is one of the bottom sleds at this time. They have really nothing going for them. There 1000's run in a 600 clas (minus the apex's). Some day they will get there act straight. Maybe... Just my thoughts. Although the Apex RTX looks tits. But the MXZ's (adrenaline "X") Look good too.
im sorry but the mxz's are some of the most relible sled. id take one over most polharis any day. and right now i have a polaris.
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I gotta give yamaha mad kudos for pioneering the 4-stroke. I think they've done extremely well on constantly improving. As much as I hated my dad's old 97 mtn max, they've come a LONG WAY since then. If I was in the market for a new sled I would spend some serious time at the yamaha dealership. The only thing that would dissuade me is the dealer is further away than the other big 3 dealers. And the weight is still a small issue just because of the type of riding I do. For mostly just trails I wouldn't give it a second thought. But yamaha and ski-doo are both great companies that have shown active interest in improving thier sleds. I hate the fact that polaris can't seem to figure out how to keep up. The only reason I ride polaris anymore is because I like the dealership and it's closest and the edge machines were the last good breed. If I was in your place I think it would just come down to which seemed to be the best deal.
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yamaha4ever I bet I have a 600ho that well spank your sled then rape it with at least 10 sled lengths in 660 ft. O did i mention i trail ride it and it has never blown up...
It must not stock the sleds i have raced have been all stock but if its stock then lets talk. But im not saying there slow and they are fun sleds i ride mu buddies some times and i love the way they ride but the nytro is such a great ride i cant switch.
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