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Old 11-08-2010, 05:00 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The Indy also has reliabilaty and easy maintainence going for it.
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My Srvs are great on the trails, light, quick and suspension is not horrible. The tss was used for quite a few years. Looking on craigslist right now there are some in decent shape for 500 dollars. The phazer is another great option for a fixed budget. My 89 srv whips my neighbors newer Indy 500.
Those 89 SRV's were way ahead of their time! I loved ours, before it was trashed...
For other recommendations, I always recommend the ZR family of snowmobiles. They really can't be beat.
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Old 11-10-2010, 09:27 PM   #23 (permalink)
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My Srvs are great on the trails, light, quick and suspension is not horrible. The tss was used for quite a few years. Looking on craigslist right now there are some in decent shape for 500 dollars. The phazer is another great option for a fixed budget. My 89 srv whips my neighbors newer Indy 500.
they are nice sleds but by far not a good trail sled. the suspension on them isn't any better then what he already has. and i would like to see you race a newwer 500.
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Old 11-10-2010, 09:56 PM   #24 (permalink)
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haha...so you are saying a jag with the leaf spring suspension on the front, has the same suspension of an srv? Oil injection on the srv also makes for a huge plus also. There is a link about the suspension. And i always love the race, sorry if I insulted your sled. Only ever been around that 500 indy. I am sure yours is much faster!!

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Not necessarily the same, but travel and spring rate is nearly the same in that age range.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:51 AM   #26 (permalink)
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they are nice sleds but by far not a good trail sled. the suspension on them isn't any better then what he already has. and i would like to see you race a newwer 500.
Not to disrespect you, but I have to disagree with both your points. SRV's ride nicely, corner well, and have plenty of torque. Weight is very light for their size, as well. They're very able trail sleds; and were designed with off-trail, cross country racing in mind.

And the Jags can't compare to the SRV's in suspension. Yes, they work well on close trails. But the SRV's have progressive, longer travel suspensions that work well under more conditions.

Re: SRV vs. Indy 500, depends on where you're riding. On well-groomed, open trail, a field, or lake, the Indy 500 is gonna KILL the SRV. Throw in a lot of curves and bumps; then the SRV handles more easily and is less work to ride.

FWIW, my SRV was never able to walk away from an Indy 500 under any conditions, but I could get ahead of them in the woods.
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:59 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I wasn't just saying a indy 500 i was saying any newer 500. and yes a srv may be a lil better than his jags but i think he is looking for something a little bit newer with better riding than a srv and his older jags. I not here bashing your srv or any sleds i'm just saying maybe he wants something newer and better. like a xtra 10 now there is no way you can say a srv is as good as a indy with a xtra 10 or even a newer cat like 93 or newer. My first sled was a 89 srv and i loved it, but it wasn't that much better of a ride than my 88 jag was as well. it was faster yes.
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Old 11-13-2010, 05:23 PM   #28 (permalink)
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An SRV wouldn't be a bad sled for him, it's more capable than a Jag, but in his price range he should be able to get a little newer one, possibly with XTRA 10 or a '93 or newer Cat like indyryder was suggesting.
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An SRV wouldn't be a bad sled for him, it's more capable than a Jag, but in his price range he should be able to get a little newer one, possibly with XTRA 10 or a '93 or newer Cat like indyryder was suggesting.
thank you JD that was my point. a SRV would be a upgrade but lets face it, it wouldn't be a big one. I'm not dogging a srv cuz i owned one and it was a great old sled. just not what i think he is looking for.
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:15 PM   #30 (permalink)
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wow guys. lots of good info here. i actually just did a bing search for "best trail sled" and this was the first result. i ended up selling the pair of jags for 700 and picking up a 95 stx583. it was fun but just seemed too big. reverse was nice though. traided that for a mint cond 84 xl250r thats on the road now. picked up a 76 yamaha exciter for 100 bucks and sold her for 700. used that to buy a pair of yamaha bravos for 200 that made one good sled and sold the frame and track of the parts sled for 300. made out pretty well w/ this run. the good bravo goes this week for 700. i tell you, i love the supper light bravo. a bit week on power but tons of fun. so it looks like ill be in the market for a phazer or an indy trail. my question is of these sleds you all have advised me of, id like to throw light weight/small feel into the equation. so... tight trails, lots of suspension, snappy, light, short(small feel like the bravo), 90s budget. whats the sled i buy?

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I would go with a mid 90's Polaris xlt... great suspension, the 600 triple has great low end speed and great top end speed. It is a big sled but fantastic on the trails.
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In the 90's snowmobiles began to get larger and heavier, it's only recently that they have begun slimming down again. My pick of the early-mid 90s would be the Arctic Cat EXT 580. In '94 they moved to the first-gen ZR chassis and were capable performers. If you move to '98, the ZR 600 was the sled of the year, and anything on that chassis is my pick of that decade, whether it be an EXT or a ZR, they really are great. Not as small as the bravo, but they can be moved around in the trails fairly easy. In my world, bigger is better!
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:28 AM   #33 (permalink)
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wow guys. lots of good info here. i actually just did a bing search for "best trail sled" and this was the first result. i ended up selling the pair of jags for 700 and picking up a 95 stx583. it was fun but just seemed too big. reverse was nice though. traided that for a mint cond 84 xl250r thats on the road now. picked up a 76 yamaha exciter for 100 bucks and sold her for 700. used that to buy a pair of yamaha bravos for 200 that made one good sled and sold the frame and track of the parts sled for 300. made out pretty well w/ this run. the good bravo goes this week for 700. i tell you, i love the supper light bravo. a bit week on power but tons of fun. so it looks like ill be in the market for a phazer or an indy trail. my question is of these sleds you all have advised me of, id like to throw light weight/small feel into the equation. so... tight trails, lots of suspension, snappy, light, short(small feel like the bravo), 90s budget. whats the sled i buy?
You notice that nobody mentioned an STX? Nice engine, and IMHO that is where it ends.

Your price range probably means mid 90s. Mid 90s snowmobiles that are worth having are Cats and Poos. Some will argue that S chassis Doos are OK, I think they are fragile. I own one. You had an F chassis Doo with the stx. Strong but heavy. Suspension not as good as Poo or Cat.

My absolute favorite snappy, light, short, 90s sled would be an Arctic Cat ZL 500. (98 ZR chassis) Can you find one at a good price?
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found a 2000 polaris xc 500 w/1900 miles for $750. needed new chain and a few rev trans parts. $140 in parts total. pretty sweet deal that i couldnt pass up. ill give her a try. seems to have a pretty good rep but i think ill end up dumping her off and gettin an indy trail. or would i be a fool?
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My family and my cousins have owned at some point about 9 different Polaris Indys. All of them had the same result: Awesome. Great starter sled, little maintenance. We all started and grew up on one until we were big enough to handle Edges
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found a 2000 polaris xc 500 w/1900 miles for $750. needed new chain and a few rev trans parts. $140 in parts total. pretty sweet deal that i couldnt pass up. ill give her a try. seems to have a pretty good rep but i think ill end up dumping her off and gettin an indy trail. or would i be a fool?
You'd be a COMPLETE fool to dump that sled for an Indy Trail. The XC 500 is a liquid cooled machine and the Trail is a fan-cooled motor. The liquid is far more powerful and will perform much better through the trails when you want to get into it coming out of the corners.
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guess im a fool lol
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Any liquid motor will push more power than any air cooled of the same size (unless heavily nodded) they are made that way because they can make more heat (which comes with power) and get rid of it quicker.
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It depends on what kind of riding you want to do. The Trail would be a great choice if you are going to be riding primarily on ice. But if you will be trail riding, the XC is definitely my choice.

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Isn't it funny that the trail isn't as good on the trail?
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