G-ForceJunkie

bumps, small jumps, an animal, a sharp turn

simply put - if your going over 50mph at night then your over-driving your headlight

Not saying I don't do it - but it's not as safe as the day

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michael9688

eee i see your point now

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Buckshot

I've heard over 25 overdrives it... I dunno if your right or wrong, but I also think it has to do with more than just speed, but I do agree with your points.

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skidoo_magoo

i think other factors would include eye sight an dreaction time. i agree with you, but ill still ride at night and, if conditions are right, go fast.

rgoers

I would think that depends heavily on your lighting system.

My 440 Panther headlight stinks!!! Can't see a darn thing at night - it just isn't bright enough. I'm going to try an 85/100w lamp next season, instead of the stock 55/65w one.

On the other hand, my ZL550 has better lighting than my car! The low beam is a single lamp, but is very bright. The highbeams are (2) lamps focused into the center... extremely bright.

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PolarisINDY500

i do have to admit, its really peacefull when its a clear night and you see every star in the galexy (sp)...

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rgoers

I went out one night with my son this past winter. We were riding local fields, drift-bashing, and stuff. When we got tired of that, we just shut them off, laid back on our seats, flipped up our helmets, and stared at the sky. We were out in the middle of nowhere - not a light in sight. Spent at least a half hour just talking, relaxing, and looking at the vast sky full of stars. It was great!

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FreshPowder

Night time is my favorite time to ride. But if I'm taking my kids along I don't go at night.

Just like 'JohnDeereSleds' said, there's nothing like that feeling of being out there in the quiet and looking up at the stars. Sit back and listen to the sounds in the woods...ahhhh.

I'm feeling sad now...got a whole year to wait.

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PolarisINDY500

thats the good part about goin to college in the country...when there is nothing else to do, just take your truck down the 2 track to the woods, crack open a beer, start a fire, and listen to the sounds of mother nature

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G-ForceJunkie

anyone else find it ironic that snowmobiling is perhaps one of the worst sports for the environment, yet we're sitting here talking about how great Mother Nature is?

Just a thought

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drz400

I don't find anything ironic in your statement. I would say that your statement was very Moronic. What about snowmobiling is so terrible for the environment. Are you really a snowmobiler? Do you believe everything that the antisnowmobilers tell you? Please list the ill effects that our sport has on the environment. Maybe you can enlighten me.

rgoers

Funny... I've always been under the impression that snowmobiling impacts the environment less than many other sports. In fact, hiking exerts over 10 times the pressure on the ground than a snowmobile does, harming plants and other living creatures that are wintering underneath the snow. As for pollution, sleds are getting cleaner and quieter. That gas-hogging SUV you just bought pollutes more than my sleds! (Okay, so I don't know if you own an SUV or not... but you get the idea.)

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PolarisINDY500

personally i think that other things are more destructive to the environment than sledding.

like ****ty cars/trucks on the road belching out plumes of burning oil, freighters that spill oil, every day people that litter and dont put trash in the trash can, companys that dump waste into the lakes/rivers, and overpopulated areas that need mass transit, and all the cars exhaust creates air pollution...

when you think about it, the sleds are really small compared to larger vehicles that that omit exhaust...

about the areas where we ride, hmmm i think we primarily ride on SNOW and not on the ground...so its not like we totally destroy the ground under the snow... sure when there is the first snow of the year, or the last snow, the ground could be exposed, but when you think about it, were only on it for less than a half a second (in a given location when were in motion)

oh well, its just my .02

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G-ForceJunkie

wow, hit a nerve did I?

1. Yes, I am a snowmobiler
2. Honestly, I've never really read/heard anything from the "antisnowmobilers"

(just going to list because it's easier)
- Next time your riding your sled, look how much smoke comes out that exhaust pipe (I don't care how great your sled runs, if it's not a SDI 2-stroke or 4-stroke, then your polluting more in about a minute of riding than that SUV you mentioned running for an hour)
- hikers don't pollute the air/water, and I consider that more of a hobby than a sport
- My immediate family owns 3 trucks and 2 SUV's, and one car (not proud of it, but SUV's don't pollute nearly as much as any non SDI 2-stroke sled, ever heard of Catalytic convertors?)
(SUV's pollute more than cars, but no where near as much as any sled)
- Yes, many things are more destructive to the environment than snowmobiling
- and Yes, I would much rather see sleds pollute than see waste dumped into rivers/lakes
- Yes, sled pollution really is a small pollution issue compared to many other things

I'm not saying snowmobiles pollute more than cars, what i'm said is what other sports pollute more?
Only one I can think of is auto racing

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drz400

Fan cooled sleds are the worst polluters there are. My suggestion would be for you to sell your z570 and z370 and take up cross country skiing. I run blue marble oil in my snowmobile and it does't smoke at all. The environment is not just the air. It is also the land. Hikers do more compaction and cause more erosion of the land than snowmobilers could ever do. Why? Because they don't actually touch the soil. Even if they did, they still wouldn't do as much damage because they exert the same amount of ground pressure as a person.

G-ForceJunkie

As far as I know, soil erosion is not a big deal in the middle of a forest

and maybe you didn't read my last post, please re-read to get maximum effect

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drz400

If erosion isn't a big deal, then why is air quality? Where do creeks and rivers start? I think that they usually start in the woods somewhere. I wonder where all of that soil goes? Maybe in the rivers and streams. That sounds like it might matter. Has anyone measured the amount of methane in hiker or bear farts? Methane is a greenhouse gas too. I think that we should ban animals and hikers from the woods in order to protect the air quality.

G-ForceJunkie

again man - I'm not against snowmobiling in any way, I just said it's one of the worst sports for the environment

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drz400

I'm sorry that you are such a self hateing snowmobiler. If people who snowmobile can't be positive about the sport, how could we possibly expect nonsnowmobilers to have a positive outlook towards the sport. The sport is not harming the environment.

G-ForceJunkie

Just keep telling yourself that

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