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Old 01-25-2007, 09:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question recovery techniques

what do you all do when your driving down a trail, turn into the wrong "road" and end up getting stuck without reverse...

this happened to me 3 days ago, and my muscles still ache.,,

the way i look at it if i had reverse there woulda been no problem, but no cheap ass me couldn't get it

besides spending the 300 on a reverse kit.... what do you all do to get out of "sticky situations"

like come alongs, winches, hi lifts, what do you all do?

please no smart ass comments like, work out and get some muscles to pick up your sled....i can lift it fine in the shop, even held it up while dad ran the track around to test it out.... but when im in the snow and the snow gets pushed against it and i have no shoe gripping, i have problems.....

i am new to the forum, thanks for the replies!!
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i don't use anything, usually just dig in and pull it out, theres not much room to carry along anything. it always helps if you have a buddy to help but other than that jsut give her a yank.
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yea, that was the thing, riding alone on the farm....

i was thinking a come-a-long, however there is NOO space for it, not like my jeep that has the winch on it and TONS of recovery gear.... but putting the jeep in the swamp would been interesting!
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Even with reverse, if you bury it, it's all muscle.
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Old 01-25-2007, 10:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have done it many timeswith the older sleds. I stomp stomp stomp or find long sticks to make a platform sirta like improvised snowshoes for myself and the sled to sit on. then if it is real bad make a corduroy road.
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Don't get stuck I've actually never been stuck enough that some muscle power can't get me out. Sometimes you have to get off the sled and power through it too.
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If you dig yourself into powder than here are the steps I use to get myself out.

1. Dig out under the front of the sled
2. Pack as much snow under the track as possible
3. Walk out and pack down a path in front of your sled so you don't get stuck again a meter later.
4. If you have a buddy with you than have him pull the ski loops until you can get some momentum.
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BRPforlife
If you dig yourself into powder than here are the steps I use to get myself out.

1. Dig out under the front of the sled
2. Pack as much snow under the track as possible
3. Walk out and pack down a path in front of your sled so you don't get stuck again a meter later.
4. If you have a buddy with you than have him pull the ski loops until you can get some momentum.
Ditto. Reverse really doesn't do anything when you are stuck.
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Lift, pull and heave until your testes drop off....Especially with my 800 Mach Z...
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Old 01-29-2007, 07:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I've got a come-along sittin in the rear rack, and a small 15" wood saw. It cuts like crazy and is lots better than trying to break off branches. But it's still mostly muscle, and hey, think of how much faster your sled will go with all that weight lost! lol
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I just lift up the rear and do as big of a side step as possible getting it on some new snow, then digging under the front and walking around in front of the sled. Then pin it and hope for the best lol.
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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we finally got the good stuff on the ground, 2.5' of nicely packed snow! i havent gotten stuck since, but i'll keep in mind next time i go into my neighbors fields.... couple close ones, but havent been able to do the stick thing, sounds interesting!

thanks for all the help... worse comes to worse, i gain some muscles and loose some weight!

thanks again, erick
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:44 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Reverse,,,I watched a couple of rev with reverse and we basically push with the reverse engaged to help a little...Bottom line is ride with some buddies and all will pitch in cause there time will come.
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:03 AM   #14 (permalink)
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If your stuck your stuck. Reverse is NO use at all.
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:03 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I was told throw a plastic toboggan under the track works wonders, I've started packing one but haven't had to use it yet. Also have a buddy that swears by a snow bungi. I always pack a nylon rope and collapsable shovel w/me as I got buried last year without a shovel. The shovel is mounted under my hood and you can usually dig it out. With the nylon rope you hit it hard and it will usually pop you out. But you have to have another sled to pull you out. The snow bungi is supposed to multiply your pull. I didnt get one this year as I worked most of the season but it is on my wish list.
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But really never ride alone and as my girlfriend says gettin stuck is a character builder. But she said this sitting on her sled that was still on the trail while I was buried in waist deep snow trying to dig out and breath at 10,000'.
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Old 11-14-2007, 07:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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yeah man there's really not much you can do about it, just dig out the track on one side and try to shimmy it over and dig around it as much as you can. and for the smart ass that said "don't get stuck" if you don't get stuck your not ridin' hard enough.
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:13 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I've only seen reverse get people MORE stuck. If I'm stuck in say 2-3 feet of powder, I'll pack the snow to 2 or 3 feet in front of the sled, the sides of the sled, and under the belly pan. I'll then move the rear of the sled over to one side however much I feel like doing (sometimes only 3-6 inches) just to get on different snow. Then I start up the sled. While standing on the right side next to the sled, I will push on the handlebars and gas the throttle about 1/2 to 3/4. Keep the throttloe on until the sled goes out of your reach. You will probably fall on your belly as the sled leaves you. Without your weight on it, it should go foward about 6-10 feet (depending oon how deep the snow is). Walk over to the sled, give it gas while you get on, and use deep snow strategies (such as turning and leaning the sled a few degrees)to stay unstuck and get moving.

I've been desperate once, and actually rolled the snowmachine over to get it unstuck (don't ask).
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:12 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Cool Jack straps and some rope

I usually keep an jack strap and a piece of rope in the trunk. Works good if you are with a buddy or if a tree is handy. Other than that like the others have said pack snow under the track and try to pack snow in front and walk beside it till she is on top of the snow and get yourself going without hammering the throttle or u will just get stuck again.
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:37 PM   #19 (permalink)
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If you find yourself stuck, don't stand there and WOT it until your track moves so freely that it coasts for five minutes after you get off the sled. If you lose your momentum, stop and wait for a buddy to pull your ski to get you going again. If your sunk a bit then lift straight up on the rear and move it to the side. Don't waste time and energy pushing from the rear, always pull from the front. Pack snow down and make yourself a trail and take the time to clear your exit route before you bury yourself deeper.

A small hacksaw can save hours if you ride in an area with a lot of brush or small trees. And the snobungie can make things a WHOLE lot easier. And once you do get moving, GET MOVING, don't be timid once you start gaining ground out of the hole.

If you're by yourself (which is never a good idea) then do a lot of digging and packing and clearing your path before trying to get moving again. Depending on the situation and conditions, sometimes you only have one shot at getting out without some extra help. Sometimes there's no shot....
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:04 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Well, where I ride, the possibility of getting stuck so bad the 2 guys (probably pretty tired after helping 4 other guys get unstuck) who were helping me could not pull hard enough to assist me out. This is after "packing" (try packing 3 feet of loose, not quite sugar snow) snow for a path, ensuring the best traction possible for the situation, and using proper throttle tecniques. Did I mention a slight incline to the situation, with no chance of turning around due to trees (reason we were all stuck, first guy blew it and stopped us all on a hill in the trees). The trick for those conditions is to remove weight from the sled for more floatation, hence me getting off. While I'm off, I decided that I should push (while 2 guys pulled on the skis), as it does help. Once the sled gets out of its hole, it is usually easier to get going again. I find this method works very well. When I get stuck, it is usually for all the marbles.
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