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Old 01-21-2008, 06:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1995 Z 583

What do you folks know about the 95 Ski Doo 583 RAVE's. I think I'm going to be getting one and just wanted to know what there is to know about them. hp, mpg, engine problems...anything really.

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Old 01-21-2008, 06:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Bulletproof motors. Hard to pull over sometimes.
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After many google searches I found a spec site that said they made 104hp... I don't know if that's accurate or not. I'd tell you about mileage but I've never measured mine, supposedly they get pretty decent mileage.

To sum up the 583: I have a friend who sold his 583 STX at 14,000km and only changed the track/hyfax etc. (regular stuff) and regular tune-ups. Definately a bullet-proof motor.
More than enough power for me, will do 0-80mph like right now. Supposedly guys have radar'd them to 100mph stock, personally I'd say 90-95mph is more likely the top speed in perfect conditions.
Extremely heavy machines (~600lbs with gas in them), not the greatest handling machine but not bad at the same time.

Typical 'problems': Some people find the primer to be confusing and therefore often flood them when trying to start them (no choke on these sleds) but once you get used to it you'll have yours fired up in 2 pulls after sitting all summer, and the choke guys will be pulling for 20 minutes.
Rear upper Idler wheels are plastic and prone to freezing - Ski Doo did a recall and replaced them with ones with a rubber ring around them but most won't have this done... Cheap and easy to replace, only needs to be done once/if the idler wheels have flattened out. Mine has 6500km on it and the idler wheels have JUST developed a small flat spot.
Shocks are not rebuild able, if they go you're looking at buying a new shock.
Possibly one of the hardest sleds to pull over, not that difficult if you are in decent shape. Electric Starts are ~$400.

I'd highly recommend a Formula Z/STX to anyone!!

EDIT: '95 Will likely have the C7 (or C4... I can't remember what the actual name is) suspension (not the SC-10 which came out in 96 on SOME models). No worries, mine also has the C7 and I don't have any complaints with it, it's a pretty smooth ride.
Ad Boiven makes something that makes the C7 suspension better than a stock SC10 suspension (or so I'm told)... I don't know if they still sell it on their site or if you have to find it used.
It is also fairly cheap to upgrade to a SC10/SC10-II/SC10-III suspension if you really wanted to.
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
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hey thanks alot I really appreciate you folks on this site taking the time to help me out.
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Old 01-24-2008, 06:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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definatly a stout motor, suspension is a little tough but nothing unbearable for that year sled. in good shape theyre a good buy.
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the 583 in the formula z and mxz sled was 102hp with 40mm carbs.
the formula srx used smaller 38mm carbs and was not as powerful as the z or mxz.
these motors are as reliable as they get, they go forever.
the 95 formula had the c7 rear skid in it.
these were heavy sleds but they had excellent weight transfer and were tough to beat in a drag race.
i beat up on MANY xlt's, xcr's and zr's with my 94 formula z i had back then.
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Old 12-28-2008, 06:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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snoeproe... Have a few questions for you. Please email me at adriennegrover@rocketmail.com Thanx!

Just bought 94 Formula Z 583 keeps bogging in and out. (had it up around 75 mph then it boggs down to 40) i checked compression = (150 each side) swapped left carb to right side and it runs the same. Right side works and left side just goes in and out. it runs with left spark plug pulled off as well. any ideas.

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my 94 formula stx 53 has the same problem.ne 1 got sum ideas?
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583 i mean
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i have a 1995 formula z 583... also had the same problem at some points... truth is the machine is built for high-performance... it hates to idle for too long or to putt around... the only reason mine ever did this is becasue it fouled plugs... also does anyone know how i can reduce the weight on the ski's and put more on the track... im a lighter guy and at times the sled is a tank and really front heavy so i kinda want to adjust it to my standards but dont know how... thanks
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