'95 XLT 600 2 up.... Is it worth it?? - Snowmobile Forum: Your #1 Snowmobile Forum

ExciterRob · 01-04-2013, 07:05 PM

I have located a '95 XLT 600 2 up sled that I think is perfect for me and my son to ride together. The only hitch is that the motor seized but it now spins free after it cooled down. It has 3k on it and it has been sitting for 3 years since the seizing. The guy is willing to part with it for $500 and I have located a used good engine for $450. My question is, is it worth it or am I asking for headaches with the triple. Any advice would be appreciated.

joshkidner · 01-04-2013, 08:10 PM

if its free, i would do a top end rebuild, would cost much less than 450. another advantage of that is if you buy anew motor, its likely to not have been rebuilt recently. xlt monoblock triples are fast and dependable stock. most people find their problems when they pipe them out. also crankcase bearings is another thing that go bad in these, id replace them while its apart, will save you money later. good luck!

Mighty Quinn · 01-04-2013, 08:22 PM

I think $500 is to much ,I do beileave the 95 had the pto bearing issue & wasn't updated till 97 ...I think ?

joshkidner · 01-04-2013, 08:58 PM

everything else would have to be good, look good, good shocks nice seat no cracks ect, unless its piped, then its not bad.

XLT Spartan · 01-04-2013, 08:58 PM

You'll like the sled if you can get it for $400/500. $800 to $900 2up, I don't think you can go wrong. Where was it stored over the last 3 years? Don't be scared about it being a tripple, that sled will have very good power and should have the xtra-12 suspension, which is a very smooth setup for that year sled. Verify what year engine the replacement is... Like stated, you really want a 97 or newer tripple. 95/96's were known to have crank issues.

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Skid · 01-05-2013, 08:12 AM

As stated above, if everything else is good ....suspension, track, seat, skis, etc. then $500 is decent. If it was left outside and all the bolts are rusty then I would stay away from it but if they stored it inside then it should be Ok.
You may want to rebuild the engine rather than replace it. About the same money and a little more work but in the end you know what you have....a fresh monoblock triple that will last years and years. That depends on how it seized though. If a piston seized then it's no big deal to fix but if the bottom end is damaged then it's a whole different ballgame.
If you still want to replace rather than rebuild here's a little information that might help you purchase the right engine...
Polaris FAQ

joshkidner · 01-05-2013, 04:15 PM

its weird that its "seized" but when its cold it moves? anyway the 2-up adds value, it most likly has xtra-12, 500 in good condition isnt bad. if you tear into it like i said above, replace crank bearings and seals

ExciterRob · 01-06-2013, 08:29 PM

I went and looked at the sled and I am really on the fence. The engine is NOT free, it was seized up tight, not to mention the head has been removed and reinstalled but not tightened down. Also, the brakes seem to be seized and I could not spin the track by hand. The sled was in overall decent shape, no damaged body parts, seat was in good shape as was the track (no studs). It does appear that it has been stored outdoors the last three years as things are rusted up and he didn't have any open space in any outbuildings. He would not accept anything less than $525, so my offer of $250 (scrap Value) was not accepted. Do to my experience with past purchases, this one seems risky do to the time and place it has been sitting. I will keep an eye on it and see if it is still for sale in a couple weeks. I don't need this machine, it would just be nice to have to take my youngest son riding with me.

xflyer53 · 01-06-2013, 08:34 PM

With all the issues you just described, walk away! It's a money pit!

silversurfer · 01-06-2013, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xflyer53

With all the issues you just described, walk away! It's a money pit!

Yeah, You made him a fair offer.

Skid · 01-06-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ExciterRob

I went and looked at the sled and I am really on the fence. The engine is NOT free, it was seized up tight, not to mention the head has been removed and reinstalled but not tightened down. Also, the brakes seem to be seized and I could not spin the track by hand. The sled was in overall decent shape, no damaged body parts, seat was in good shape as was the track (no studs). It does appear that it has been stored outdoors the last three years as things are rusted up and he didn't have any open space in any outbuildings. He would not accept anything less than $525, so my offer of $250 (scrap Value) was not accepted. Do to my experience with past purchases, this one seems risky do to the time and place it has been sitting. I will keep an eye on it and see if it is still for sale in a couple weeks. I don't need this machine, it would just be nice to have to take my youngest son riding with me.

Sounds like trouble. I don't think it would be worth the aggravation even for $250. Nothing like working with rusty bolts!

joshkidner · 01-07-2013, 08:40 PM

Unless you plan on parting it out (will make you money, also consume alot of time posting individual parts/ taking it apart / shipping) parts will go for a good price. I wouldnt even bother though. Not worth the hastle. Maybe if you already bought it

steepndeep · 01-07-2013, 11:35 PM

Trade-in value for a 95 w/133 1/2 paddle track in good condition is only $645. In fact, I just purchased two running XLTs (94 SKS and 95 RMK) in good condition for $100 a piece, so I would recommend that you run not walk away from that deal.

Cleaning Lady · 01-08-2013, 12:22 AM

I had a '95 XLT and you won't be disappointed in that model but this one sounds like too much work.
I never had any trouble with the bearings but then again, I made sure my sled was maintained like new at all times.
Loved the triple and got way better gas mileage than my friends did with their twin cats and doo's.
Wish I never sold it....by the way I sold it for $800, Running and in Perfect condition, it's 18 years old and still on the trail to the guy that bought it from me

Maybe you should keep looking.

ExciterRob · 01-08-2013, 10:25 AM

Thank you all for the input, I have left this machine in the dust, unless he calls back and says he will basically give me the sled. And the search continues......

ClassicIndy600 · 01-08-2013, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid

As stated above, if everything else is good ....suspension, track, seat, skis, etc. then $500 is decent. If it was left outside and all the bolts are rusty then I would stay away from it but if they stored it inside then it should be Ok.
You may want to rebuild the engine rather than replace it. About the same money and a little more work but in the end you know what you have....a fresh monoblock triple that will last years and years. That depends on how it seized though. If a piston seized then it's no big deal to fix but if the bottom end is damaged then it's a whole different ballgame.
If you still want to replace rather than rebuild here's a little information that might help you purchase the right engine...
Polaris FAQ

If the bolts are rusty then stay away? Dont quite understand the logic there. I would be more concerned with the seat/track being dry rotted or hood'/nosecone being faded, but I guess if the bolts are rusted then you should stay away.
I would replace the motor, there is probably lower end damage, not really worth sticking good money rebiulding when for a little more cash you could have a good complete motor. Make sure it has good compression first and listen to it running. Good Luck.

joshkidner · 01-08-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ClassicIndy600

If the bolts are rusty then stay away? Dont quite understand the logic there. I would be more concerned with the seat/track being dry rotted or hood'/nosecone being faded, but I guess if the bolts are rusted then you should stay away.
I would replace the motor, there is probably lower end damage, not really worth sticking good money rebiulding when for a little more cash you could have a good complete motor. Make sure it has good compression first and listen to it running. Good Luck.

Well if he gets it he can look at the bottom end and determine if it is good and he can just do a top end or if it isnt he can get another engine. 500 is still too high. I would be more confortable at 350-400 needing to be rebuilt or engine swap.

meburdick · 01-08-2013, 10:13 PM

You were looking at a $500 sled and were considering another $450 for a motor. Then, you were going to do the work. For $1000, you will be able to find one that's "already assembled" and in good running order.

Skid · 01-09-2013, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ClassicIndy600

If the bolts are rusty then stay away? Dont quite understand the logic there. I would be more concerned with the seat/track being dry rotted or hood'/nosecone being faded, but I guess if the bolts are rusted then you should stay away.
I would replace the motor, there is probably lower end damage, not really worth sticking good money rebiulding when for a little more cash you could have a good complete motor. Make sure it has good compression first and listen to it running. Good Luck.

The logic is that if the sled sat out in the swamp for 3 years and all the fasteners are rusted to the point that they're difficult if not impossible to remove, then the rest of the sled, i. e. rotten track, dry-rotted seat, etc. all follows suite with the condition of the fasteners. I'ts really difficult to replace that rotten track or leaky shocks if you can't get the bolts out.

silversurfer · 01-12-2013, 12:20 PM

Not to highjack the thread, it sounds like it mostly died a natural death, I had these book-marked.

96 POLARIS 600 & 97 POLARIS 700

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1994 polaris

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(2) 72 MERCURY LIGHTNING 398'S

Piper Cherokee Six - price reduced again

Chrylser SnoRunner

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1998 Polaris XC700

XC 700

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1999 Polaris 700 XC

2001 Polaris Edge XC 600

You're a bit of a ways from me, but I thought some of them were interesting.