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1997 indy 500 chaincase oil change

Im about to change my sleds chaincase oil, I get the whole draining it and everything and checking the tension but when I go to put the new oil in do I put it in where the dipstick is or while I have the chaincase open do I put it in the chaincase itself?
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There is a drain bolt directly under the chain case. Remove the bolt and drain the oil. After the oul is out, remove the chain case cover. Remove the chain and gears. Clean gears, chain, chain tensioner, and inside of case throughly with a non chlorinated cleaner (kerosene, brake cleaner). These take serious abuse and get nasty over time. Replace your gears and chain. Tighten chain to the manufacturers specs. You really should replace the chain case cover gasket at this time. Replace cover. Fill with oil through dipstick hole. Again only fill to the manufacturers specs. Your Polaris dealer sells "SCL" Snowmobile Chaincase Lube. It is the only oil Polaris recommonds. Too little and your gears run dry, tooo much can blow a seal.

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Alot of people say you can use ATF? has anyone ran it? Is it safe to?
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I would NOT run ATF. It is way too thin for those type of gears. If you can't get the Polaris stuff you can run 80w/90w gear lube. But I would change ASAP

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ATF can work fine. Gear oil is too thick. You aren't running gears, you are running a chain and sprockets. Gear oil does not get in between the links of the chain like chaincase fluid will. ATF is more the consistency of chaincase fluid.

I run Polaris chaincase fluid, a quart will do two-three sleds so it's not like it will break the bank. That said, there really aren't a lot of failures to the chaincase regardless of what fluid you use as long as it's changed frequently and the chain is adjusted properly. JMHO

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I've had the same 2 gallons of the Polaris oil since I quit working at the dealership 4 years ago. It lasts a while, and is cheap insurance. Polaris uses some very different oils, and they wont tell what grades they are. Their quads used to use 0/w40. Now its simply called "syn blend" or some crap like that. Try finding that at an auto parts store! Its their way of selling the products. Kind of a scam to us, but a great marketing startegy to them. But I can say all the products I've used from them are top notch. I especially like the VES Gold 2 stroke injector oil. Not that im at all brand loyal. I've always been a Klotz fan from back in my motocross days.

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I agree. There's not a snowmobile manufacturer out there that has an oil well somewhere. They all contract out to the oil industry to sell "their" specific brand, which is obviously the best, because it's got "their" name on it. Marketing, for sure. But it works.

Polaris Gold is great oil. Klotz is great oil. Amsoil is great oil. I just wish I could be burning some of it some time this year!

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Just curious, when you remove the chain case cover should I expect any small parts or springs to go flying? Or is the cover just the cover? Never had one open yet.

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No, there will be nothing flying when the cover is removed. If it has not been off for a while, be prepared to find some sludge in the bottom though.

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If you have a mechanical reverse, then yes. There are springs, shift forks, and many different pices than a standard chaincase

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If you have a mechanical reverse, then yes. There are springs, shift forks, and many different pices than a standard chaincase
This true but he does not have to worry about any of that falling out when he takes the cover off unless there is a major problem.

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Being a Polaris tech and service manager for 10 years, you would not believe the amount of sutff that has come out of odd spots! But you are correct. If there is no problems, then the springs should not come flying out at you.

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I used to use ATF in my Cats - never had a problem. BOTH of them had mechanical reverse... which means a chains AND gears!

I had over 10k miles on one of them... ATF works just fine. I might add that NY riding temps were more often than not in single digits or below zero. ATF is thin enough to work well in those temps - whereas oils will get real thick and not flow very well.

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Being a Polaris tech and service manager for 10 years, you would not believe the amount of sutff that has come out of odd spots! But you are correct. If there is no problems, then the springs should not come flying out at you.


Very nice to here. The oils looking a little sludgy/milky and last week i thought i might have developed a squeal from that area. I wanted to open it, clean and adjust the chain. I was worried about the reverse though, I noticed that it had a pitch fork and spring type mechanical system but didn't know what to expect. Thanks.

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Being a Polaris tech and service manager for 10 years, you would not believe the amount of sutff that has come out of odd spots! But you are correct. If there is no problems, then the springs should not come flying out at you.
I am planning on changing my chaincase oil tonight... Do you or does anyone know how much oil my 95 indy trail deluxe (500cc Fuji w/ reverse) takes? Also if there is any sludge in my chaincase what tool should I use to clean it out with?

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11 oz for the mechanical reverse (8 oz. for the regular.) I use WD-40 to spray the inside of the chaincase to get rid of all the debris. Works great. I buy WD-40 by the gallon and use a hand spray bottle instead of the aerosol, though.

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There should be a check plug hole about 2" from the bottom of the chain case. Remove the plug and then fill until it trickles out the hole. Put the plug back in and you're good to go.
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If your chaincase has the dipstick, there will be no check hole.
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If your chaincase has the dipstick, there will be no check hole.
I do have the dip stick and there is a tiny check hole on the front of the chaincase about 2" from the bottom. bolt is a lot smaller than the others.
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Being a Polaris tech and service manager for 10 years, you would not believe the amount of sutff that has come out of odd spots! But you are correct. If there is no problems, then the springs should not come flying out at you.
Took apart my chaincase to give a good flush bc it hadn't been changed in years. Looks good but I can't get it back together again properly - the reverse didn't have much tension on it and didn't feel like it was clicking in. Does anyone have a picture or diagram on how this (horseshoe shaped) reverse shift fork(I think it's called) slides back into my chaincase?

Anyone?

Can't afford to lose reverse!
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