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Old 08-17-2010, 06:05 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 08-17-2010, 07:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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you already know more than my brother will ever know (it took me 30 minutes to explain how a clutch on a bike worked)......

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Old 08-17-2010, 08:05 PM   #24 (permalink)
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One additional note, when you start the engine feel the exhaust first. If it's warm, it means the owner started the sled prior to you coming so when you start it it will turn over easy. Obviously there's no way to make it cold again without waiting awhile, so just bring it up to the owner and see his reaction if it is warm. Besides, if it's EFI then it should start in 3 pulls MAX when cold.
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you already know more than my brother will ever know (it took me 30 minutes to explain how a clutch on a bike worked)......

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Old 08-17-2010, 09:19 PM   #26 (permalink)
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One additional note, when you start the engine feel the exhaust first. If it's warm, it means the owner started the sled prior to you coming so when you start it it will turn over easy. Obviously there's no way to make it cold again without waiting awhile, so just bring it up to the owner and see his reaction if it is warm. Besides, if it's EFI then it should start in 3 pulls MAX when cold.
I didn't get this until just now. Damn! I'll do that when I go to pick it up on Thursday.
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:55 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Alright so here's the update...I showed up and the thing is nice and covered and looks great. Then I notice a few scratches...no big deal then a little plastic piece missing (small little vent like piece by your right knee when sitting) Then I lifted up the hood which felt like it was missing a bolt or two. Kind of flimsy, are they all like that? Under the hood it was decently clean but the pipe has a huge dent in it. He said his wife hit a tree. Not sure if I believe that as the hood doesn't have a crack in it. So the hood must have flown off and the sled landed on a rock or something? Or do those pipes dent easy?

Compression test...I tested both and they both came back dead center at 110. Thoughts? I looked at the max MPH on the display and it said 81mph so I know it was fast as hell at one point.

As far as the rest of the sled, the rear suspension felt good sitting on it once you got off you had to pickup the rear end to extended it all the way. Is that normal? I figured travel was different on these things. Unlike my ATV or dirt bike where the bike bounces right back up when getting off.

One of the skis was barley clipped and took about a half of an inch out of it, not big at all but I did notice it.

All in all the thing is in decent condition and still WAY under blue book. NADA was higher than KBB and came in at $4785. Started first pull, sounded good. Little bit of smoke when started but went away. If I remember right that's normal. I drove it up the ramps into the back of my truck and the clutch grabbed like normal. (Although it wouldn't fit in back of truck...lol...damn short bed)

The 2" knobs look good on the track. Bottom doesn't look like it's been hit much at all. Few small scratches. Really just looks like the sled took a little tumble. Which I am fine with to be honest because I'm sure I'll do the same. Not too worried about the dent in the pipe as I was planning on upgrading to a SLP anyway.

So guys give me your honest feedback here. Still a great deal? Do you think there may be hidden issues that I won't find out until my first ride?

I pick it up on Thursday, that's if you guys don't talk me out of it. (I'm not sure the guy will give me my money back though...haha)
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Couple things to note here. It is beat, there is no doubt about it, which is why its cheap. Compression is fine. And yes, hoods are flimsy on all sleds, but you should be able to lift it on one side without worrying about it snapping. The dent in the exhaust worries me, it may need replacement. The ski is a minor issue. Besides the dent, the suspension is most likely shot. It should go back up when you get off. And, 81mph is slow for a 700. Ask him if he ever really pushed her.
For the price however, it is still worth it, even if you have to replace some things.
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Rear suspension should not need to be replaced, but the shocks will need to be rebuilt. Compression is do-able but will need rebuild in about a thousand miles or so. The pipe should be replaced, but if you're going SLP anyway, that shouldn't be a problem. 81mph max? For a 700 it should go 90-100 in it's sleep. If it was ran into a tree to bend the pipe, then the body panels would've needed to be replaced?... That could be why the hood is scratched or missing pieces (probably bought used).
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Couple things to note here. It is beat, there is no doubt about it, which is why its cheap. Compression is fine. And yes, hoods are flimsy on all sleds, but you should be able to lift it on one side without worrying about it snapping. The dent in the exhaust worries me, it may need replacement. The ski is a minor issue. Besides the dent, the suspension is most likely shot. It should go back up when you get off. And, 81mph is slow for a 700. Ask him if he ever really pushed her.
For the price however, it is still worth it, even if you have to replace some things.
If I'm going to have to replace the exhaust would you recommend just going with a SLP or put stock one back on?

How much would it cost to replace the rear suspension? And again do you recommend stock or after market?

He said he got it up to 90mph but let off because he got scared. I'm the kind of guy that doesn't believe it until I see it...so I believed the 81mph because the computer said so.
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Rear suspension should not need to be replaced, but the shocks will need to be rebuilt. Compression is do-able but will need rebuild in about a thousand miles or so. The pipe should be replaced, but if you're going SLP anyway, that shouldn't be a problem. 81mph max? For a 700 it should go 90-100 in it's sleep. If it was ran into a tree to bend the pipe, then the body panels would've needed to be replaced?... That could be why the hood is scratched or missing pieces (probably bought used).
Holy crap I'm learning a TON from you guys!! Can't thank you all enough.

Do they sell kits to rebuild the shocks? Do you save a lot of money compared to buying after market shocks? If I'm repairing/replacing the rear should I do the front at the same time?

Damn and I thought 81 was pretty good. Perhaps it will need a rebuild. What kind of $ am I looking at there?

One of the body panels is sitting in there but has duct tape on it. Just remembered that.

So thus far I can expect to be putting new suspension and pipe on it. After that totals up as I still sitting at a good buy or should I work on getting money back and go after one of the 04 RMK 800's?
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To be honest, 81 is to be expected. In deep snow it is really hard to go fast and the long track and thick lugs slow the sled down considerably. It doesn't need a rebuild at the moment, so that isn't the problem. And for all you know, he didn't even max out the sled. 81 is definitely not all she has.
You may want to put some money to fix up the hood a bit. I would go stock everything when you replace, since it's cheaper and mods generally reduce reliability.
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I'm not sure if your particular shocks are rebuildable or not (somebody should know) but they would need to be done professionally. Prices can vary but shouldn't be too bad. As far as piping goes, I'd go stock because with the different flow characteristics of an aftermarket pipe, the EFI would probably need to be remapped to provide the most efficient power.
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I'd say on a 2006 they'd have rebuildable shocks. For those, I would take them to a private guy...watch CL and you'll probably see an ad or two from guys who rebuild shocks for usually around $40 or so, which isn't too bad. I'd say there's good reason for the low price, but overall it isn't too bad. EFI sleds, when cold, should start in 2 pulls, so maybe he did start it before? Once warm they start in 1 pull but I think most newer EFI sleds are first pull takes readings and primes it, 2nd pull starts it? I know it's warmer now than it is in the winter so it will start easier, but 2 pulls is usually what EFI sleds take. Just a thought...hard to say if he did or not. For the speed thing, 81 mph is pretty good for that sled. It has a long track and tall paddles. Those 2 things cut down majorly on top end speed. It's a mountain sled, so it's geared a tad lower I would think, which would also reduce top speed. Speed doesn't matter for a mountain sled though. Climbing ability and how easy it is to throw around are way more important. Overall I'd say it's not a bad deal.
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the 06 700 is actually a 755, and is built in the problematic 900 engine block. They only built that 700 for one year. That may be something you want to consider when you buy. If I had to decide between an 04 Edge 800 carbed or that 700, i would forgo the IQ chassis and stick with the Edge. I had an 04 800 with a 151" track, it was a really nice sled. Had I not had an issue one dark and stormy night, I would probably still be riding it.

The IQ is a nice chassis, but the stellar player in 06 is the 600. It's a great sled, lots of power. The HO EFI model makes about 4 HP more than the carbed model and doesn't require jetting. In 07, the 700 cc engine is based on the 600 block and is a VERY reliable engine with lots of power. There is a ton of difference between an 06 and an 07 when it comes to talking Polaris engines, you may want to do a bit of reading and go into the purchase with your eyes wide open...
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The suspension hanging up is also likely due to lack of maintenance. There are grease fittings at the pivot points that should be greased every 1000 miles, or twice a year depending on your riding and they should also be greased anytime the suspension has been in water.
Shock rebuilding may not need to be done right away, but, I would probably have them done just for peace of mind.
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LIke alexmudde said, if the pipes dented, the body panels must of been replaced.. check the A-arms and everything to make sure nothings bent..and I was not aware in 06 that the 700 was actually a 755.....
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I'd say on a 2006 they'd have rebuildable shocks. For those, I would take them to a private guy...watch CL and you'll probably see an ad or two from guys who rebuild shocks for usually around $40 or so, which isn't too bad. I'd say there's good reason for the low price, but overall it isn't too bad. EFI sleds, when cold, should start in 2 pulls, so maybe he did start it before? Once warm they start in 1 pull but I think most newer EFI sleds are first pull takes readings and primes it, 2nd pull starts it? I know it's warmer now than it is in the winter so it will start easier, but 2 pulls is usually what EFI sleds take. Just a thought...hard to say if he did or not. For the speed thing, 81 mph is pretty good for that sled. It has a long track and tall paddles. Those 2 things cut down majorly on top end speed. It's a mountain sled, so it's geared a tad lower I would think, which would also reduce top speed. Speed doesn't matter for a mountain sled though. Climbing ability and how easy it is to throw around are way more important. Overall I'd say it's not a bad deal.

How can I tell for sure if the shock is rebuildable or not? Could I call Polaris?
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the 06 700 is actually a 755, and is built in the problematic 900 engine block. They only built that 700 for one year. That may be something you want to consider when you buy. If I had to decide between an 04 Edge 800 carbed or that 700, i would forgo the IQ chassis and stick with the Edge. I had an 04 800 with a 151" track, it was a really nice sled. Had I not had an issue one dark and stormy night, I would probably still be riding it.

The IQ is a nice chassis, but the stellar player in 06 is the 600. It's a great sled, lots of power. The HO EFI model makes about 4 HP more than the carbed model and doesn't require jetting. In 07, the 700 cc engine is based on the 600 block and is a VERY reliable engine with lots of power. There is a ton of difference between an 06 and an 07 when it comes to talking Polaris engines, you may want to do a bit of reading and go into the purchase with your eyes wide open...
You're absolutely right it is a 755cc. What kind of problems can I expect from that year? I hate to hear they only made that for one year...that must have really given them issues.

So I'm a little confused on which models are the IQ chassis. Was it a string of years that had the chassis?

I've already made the purchase and I doubt the guy will give me my money back so I may just have to live with it and fix whatever breaks. Or drive it off a cliff.

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LIke alexmudde said, if the pipes dented, the body panels must of been replaced.. check the A-arms and everything to make sure nothings bent..and I was not aware in 06 that the 700 was actually a 755.....
The A-arms look good. One is scratched but neither look bent. I was told to check the frame and hifax? How would I go about checking those two things? (Or is it not necessary?)
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