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Old 12-29-2009, 07:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2006 polaris fusion - idle

not really a major issue but im kinda wondering what it could be, i have a 06 600 ho with 109 miles on it, bought it about 3 weeks ago for $5,000 still in the crate with all updates done to it, i can start it first pull on half choke and flip it up right away and it will idle all day, however after riding on the trail and getting it warm it will idle for about a min or 2 and shut off, when trying to restart i have to hold the throttle to start it again, doesnt matter if its on full choke, half or anything, i can pull and pull for about 5 times and wont take off untill i push the throttle to it

i think maybe the plugs might be shot because the first tank of heavy premix to polaris specs (i installed NGK plugs since the first miles put on it, instead of the champion plugs) but it doesnt make since that i would have to hold the throttle to get it to start, however i havent had a great chance to just hammer on it the clean the plugs because of riding the only trips on the sled so far with my wifes young brothers (12 and 14)

i plan on putting the new plugs in before i go out this weekend but just wondering what you guys thought might be the issue

another thing i noticed is the difference in cornering, i had 93 indy sks before this and it almost seems that it handles 10x better then the fusion does lol, the fusion almost seems so high up and what not that it just wants to lift that front ski and roll lol

just the little things ive noiced if anybody else has any idea or input please feel free to share it

thanks andrew
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sounds more like a fuel inadequacy than a spark issue to me
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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not really broke in yet either
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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what you mean not broke in yet? just not enough miles on the engine? or i should run another tank of pre mix through it? ive been running polaris ves gold
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Pretty much with all my newer Polaris sleds you have to crack the throttle to get 'em to start after running a while. It's a pretty common thing. Some guys have gone to a smaller pilot jet to give less fuel, I just know it's happening and give it a bit of throttle when I pull the rope...
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Old 01-08-2010, 06:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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well i was running brp 7s that the dealership told me was a direct replacement for the champions that came stock with the sled, looked alright where tanish, however i looked and its suppost to have brp 9s so i replace them and went for a ride and the sled still idles from 1100 and works it way down till about 600 after it warms up for a few seconds. i pulled the plugs and they are pretty dark/wet when i pulled them

The main thing that is bugging the heck out of me with this sled is the fact that it starts first pull when cold but as soon as its warm doesnt matter if i ride it to a stop sign, hit the kill switch, and go to restart i have to pull and pull and pump the throttle enough/ try to hold it and pull to get it to restart
i should be able to restart the machine with one pull not using throttle or choke

i read in the manual about the oil they use to assemble the machines/keep the insides from rusting but how long should that last? there is roughly 210 miles on the machine

also the oil light is just about to come on (flashs every once in a while depending the bumps) is that normal for the amount of miles on have on it?

Hoping to get a few good answers to the questions, ive seen a bunch of people having the same issue with there fusions while searching on the net and nobody really has a clear answer to the problem, hoping to kick up a few ideas try and solve this problem

sorry for all the questions but im just used to my cheap sleds that ran great and now this year i went out an got a new sled to kinda treat myself (x mas gift) and its having issues lol

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Old 01-08-2010, 09:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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ive also seen alot about the carbs not being set up correctly

anybody seen the Jan article about improving idle on the fusion in Snow Week

will this correct the starting issue as well?
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Old 01-17-2010, 09:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
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throttle me please

My 06 Fusion 600 HO does the same thing.Once its a little warm or even if its been sitting for 1/2 hour in cold weather ...I still have to open the thottle a little(no choke) to start it.To me this is a non issue because this is the only machine I've ever owned that ALWAYS starts.....-40 or spring warm....hot or cold.All ya gotta do is open the throttle a bit ...one or two pulls and your good to go.It smokes a little as well....but its ALWAYS reliable.I'll take a thumb on the throttle any day.
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Old 01-17-2010, 10:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i have 05 600 and 500 and with both sleds if they dont start after two or three pulls ill give them a little gas and they start right up and run fine. i would not worry
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Old 01-18-2010, 07:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
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yeah, not really a big deal i guess, just kinda dumb, a new sled would do that, however i bumped up the idle screw and its worked out pretty good as far as the idle, i started mine on a few -10 days with full choke on first pull

the dealer said it needs the air more then the gas when it goes to start warm, i was thinking about messing with the air screw seeing how it runs pretty rich anyways
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Old 01-18-2010, 07:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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from what i read u went from a hotter plug in the 7s to a colder plug in the 9s
that would explain the rich condition that u have now
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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also if your running a heavy pre mix that would f up the plugs. and also rule of thumb is you should top up the oil before the light comes on, the light is like the idiot light for the temp
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i ran the 7s during the premix tank of gas, thats what the dealer told me was the correct cross ref from the champions that were in the machine, however they were wrong... lucky for them the 7s were still a nice tanish/brown, however i am running 9 sright now, neither one helped out with idle or starting when warm, also the machine calls for 9s, its under still has a one year polaris factory warrenty on it so i dont want to do anything to void the warrenty

also i didnt top off the oil on it because i wanted to see how long it would take before it came on, it never came on but it was close at about 250 miles roughly (if i hit a bump just right it would flicker and then go back off again)
i carry a full quart of ves gold in the back of the sled and always keep a gallon back at the shop, the sled gets oil added to it before i go out on every ride

ive heard of people going down 1 jet size to help/correct the idle and starting issue but im not going to do anything like that till after the first year if i dont extend the warrenty
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Old 01-19-2010, 10:27 AM   #14 (permalink)
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ya keeping an extra quart is good thats what i do but i dont know about the jetting
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