amsoil hp injector oil and 97 xlt touring??? - Snowmobile Forum: Your #1 Snowmobile Forum

yankeeslover · 10-05-2009, 08:59 AM

My buddy just gave me a full gallon of the amsoil synthetic HP injector oil...Was wondering if this is ok to use in a 97 xlt sled? I just purchased this sled last month w/1700 miles on it, and I never used a synthetic oil... should I use this oil? Or just use the normal blue Polaris oil? Im not sure what synthetic oil is, or if its supposed to be better then the normal 2 stroke oil, or if it can be used in a older sled..thank you

ppolaris1010 · 10-05-2009, 05:16 PM

I wouldn't use it. terrible on the bearings. its good for racing but they rebuild there motors alot. Bearings will be solid blue from overheating when running that stuff.polaris blue is your best bet

Z15 · 10-05-2009, 06:24 PM

HP Injector is not for racing. Its OK to use. Dominator is the AMSOIL Racing Oil.

I know many sledders who run HP Injector and have been for years.

Follow this link for more info on the HP Injector

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Also recommended for personal watercraft, jet boats, motorcycles, snowmobiles and ATVs. Injector use or 50:1 premix.

Fyi - AMSOIL is a sponsor on the Polaris race team.

Synthetic oil is oil the is chemically made molecule by molecule in a lab. Synthetic oils are superior to refined oils.

Regular oil is refined from crude.

ppolaris1010 · 10-05-2009, 07:12 PM

Have you ever had a motor apart that runs it i have about 30 of them every one with the same problem over heated blown bearings. Synthetic oils suck for the average rider they have no protection from water when engines sit for extended periods of time why waste your money. you'll never notice a difference from regular oils to sythetic in a stock sled.skidoo mineral oil is the best oil out there and the cheapest for ves sleds and it has better numbers on a dyno than any synthetic.and just because there a sponsor doesn't mean they use it if you ever raced you would know that

Z15 · 10-05-2009, 07:53 PM

All the race teams AMSOIL sponsors only use AMSOIL

Waters88 · 10-05-2009, 11:32 PM

Maybe in a Polaris it is different but my '98 Yamaha Vmax has had Amsoil in it since day 1. Currently it has 22,000KM(about 14,000miles) on it, and it has NEVER had a rebuild. Never had any motor work whatsoever. Still has loads of compression, so much so that the dealer did not believe that it was the original engine last fall when it was taken in for some electrical work. Maybe I am a lone example, but synthetics work well for me!

P.S. I had a buddy who worked for an Amsoil race team, and if they were caught not using Amsoil, the contract over.

Polaris87 · 10-06-2009, 06:26 AM

I'm going to be running the Amsoil Interceptor this winter in my 500. The 600 will probably get castrol. Might run castrol in everything. The only time I see the need for synthetic is for VES. All this "Smokeless" stuff is crap and the stuff that smells like cherry's....Who doesn't like the smell of a 2 stroke? Well maybe the wife when after you fill the barn with it and you come in the house smelling like a motor hahahaha. No though, I think any of well known oil will work just fine...as long as its half expensive, it must be half good. lol!

An old guy once asked me what I was burning for oil in my 2 stroke ATV and I said "Just the cheap stuff." He said "you should be burning the Polaris stuff or something a little better than what you've got in there..." "Nah, I said, It's too expensive." He said "Yea...and so is your motor!"

A week later the motor went to heck costing 1000 to fix it. It burned Polaris oil after that! Thats my 0.2cents....

Z15 · 10-06-2009, 07:49 AM

FWIW

Polaris oil is nothing special. Its from a company called Lube-Tech. They are a custom bottler catering to the small engine and Powersports markets. In a nutshell, it all basically the same. Low cost oil designed to make the OEM a lot of money.

OEMs typically buy low cost oils from lubricant blenders, put their labels on them and send them out for distribution at dealerships. Contrary to consumer perception, OEM lubes often are equal to the performance quality of the cheapest aftermarket oils on store shelves. Dealers can command higher prices simply because the consumer perceives it to be more appropriate for the application.

Not many people stick with OEM oils in cars or trucks; they bargain hunt and buy the cheapest oil or switch to a quality synthetic. When it comes to power sports, everybody worries about switching from OEM. I am not sure why people worry about it, but as long as it meets the specs (oem oils) you are fine. There are 2 things you can do. Buy oil that meets the minimum specs or go all out and by the best synthetic to keep it clean and make it last longer.

Yamaha 2-stroke oil is a Torco product (re-labeled), the Ski-Doo oil comes from Castrol and the Polaris and Arctic Cat oils are blended by LubeTech.

**RJ Gleason** · 10-06-2009, 10:31 AM

As long as the oil that you use is "injector ready" (pre-diluted), and is TCW-3 rated, you can use it. It does not matter if it is dino, blend or full synthetic.

The only caveat is that engines with exhaust valves seen to need the valves cleaned less often when full synthetic is used.
I have been using the cheap stuff (Walmart SuperTech Blend) for 5 years in my 700. I know of others who have been using it in valved engines as well and have no extra cleanings of the valves (once a season). If it makes you feel better to use expensive oil, so be it. As for me, I'm too cheap to waste money that can go to the gas for riding.