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Old 01-10-2008, 04:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Two-stroke oil - which brand is the best?

I just read what Indy700 wrote in his 'torque' thread, but I wanted to title this to get as many answers as possible.

I have read that Phillips makes a great oil that is also inexpensive. I don't want to shell out for Amsoil all the time, so I want to know the best oil from a Consumer Reports standpoint; cost, quality, performance, smell, etc.

What are you guys buying, how much per quart, and why?
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I only run Klotz synthetic, but as far as regular oil, any TCW-3 rated oil is good.
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I personally use Polaris Premium Blend. Its a semi-synthetic and you can buy it for $20 a gallon.
I used to use Polaris Blue, but Blend replaced Blue, so thats what I use now.
Ive tried synthetics in the past (Polaris VES and VES II) and I honestly think that Blend works just as well and is much cheaper.
If you were going with a synthetic, Id say Klotz is the best. It has better performance specs than Amsoil and IMO has a much more pleasent odor. Klotz makes your exhaust smell like race gas. My brother used to run Amsoil Interceptor in his Pro-X and that stuff stunk. Also, if the wind blew just right to blow the smoke in your eyes, it would make them water and burn.
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I only run Klotz synthetic, but as far as regular oil, any TCW-3 rated oil is good.
I use yamalube.
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I use the amsoil interceptor and I pay about $29.00 a gallon.
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I run good ole castrol gosnow cheap bout $15 for a lil more than a gallon it works fine never ever had a problem with it doesnt burn your eyes you can get it anywere so thats wut i use if you have power valves run sythetic or you will have to clean the valves more
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I have read several cautions about "mixing" brands of oil. Is this really a risk, if i wish to change brands?

Which type of oil will minimize exhaust valve carbon buildup? Is brand (Polaris?) important for this also? ...or just type/quality of oil?
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I hate to admit it, but I have gone as low as running citgo brand 2 stroke oil. I always run cheap junk. Right now I have a mix of Polaris oil, Artic Blue Oil, Citgo Oil, and Pennzoil. so far no problems.
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Ive been running Walmarts $8.34 a gallon Supertech 2 stroke oil now for the past 3 years with no problems at all. It has the same tcw-3 rating like the others so its been tested. And actually theres only a couple of oil companies out there making 2 stroke.
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I also run Wal-mart super tech 2 cyl. oil it is TCW3 and have had no problems with it for 5 years about $7 a gallon here, the only thing I don't like about it is the smell is not the greatest but for the price I can live with it. With me and my 2 kids riding I go through about a gallon every 2 weeks.
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I myself bought a gallon of the Fleet Farm two stroke oil and have run that without blowing anything up for the last several years.

I Googled TC-W3 oils to find out a little more about them. It turns out that Pennzoil manufactures and bottles the Walmart brand Supertec oil.

Here is a link to a SnowGoer article on oils,
Choosing A 2-Stroke Oil

This is an excellent article from Snowmobile@Off Road.com about oils, very imformative.
Snowmobile Oils - Don't Get Snowed - - Snowmobile at Off-Road.com

I am 34 years old and am comfortable saying that I have become my father; a world class cheapskate. I just might checkout that Walmart oil.
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Which type of oil will minimize exhaust valve carbon buildup? Is brand (Polaris?) important for this also? ...or just type/quality of oil?
jimboat if you are running 2 cycle oil what exhaust valves are you possibly talking about???

Ok I just read about some kind of variable exhaust valves but I have never heard of them before or have never seen a exhaust valve in a 2 cycle engine, the newest sled I own is a 1996, go figure.
I also have become my father, and am a first class cheap skate also. I read TCW3 maybe is not the greatest for a high rev'ing snowmobile, but like I said I have never had a burn't piston or any other problem with it since I got my John Deere 440 LiquiFire in the late 1980's when at that time I ran TCW2 and now the TCW3 is even better oil. I guess if I ever broke down and bought a newer sled and paid thousands of dollars I would buy the better oil. The most expensive sled I have ever owned I paid $800 for.
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I hate to admit it, but I have gone as low as running citgo brand 2 stroke oil. I always run cheap junk. Right now I have a mix of Polaris oil, Artic Blue Oil, Citgo Oil, and Pennzoil. so far no problems.
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I have been running Valvoline, but have thought about switching.... Is there a difference between 2-stroke TCW3 oil as opposed to 2-stroke TCW3 INJECTOR oil?
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I have read several cautions about "mixing" brands of oil. Is this really a risk, if i wish to change brands?

Which type of oil will minimize exhaust valve carbon buildup? Is brand (Polaris?) important for this also? ...or just type/quality of oil?
I hope not I mixed yamalube with red oil(possibly Synthetic)I don't know what the guy had in there when I purchased the sled? So far no problems.
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i run amsoil hp injector, no bad smell 24 bucks a gallon. and love it.
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I hate to admit it, but I have gone as low as running citgo brand 2 stroke oil. I always run cheap junk. Right now I have a mix of Polaris oil, Artic Blue Oil, Citgo Oil, and Pennzoil. so far no problems.
pennzoil cooked my buddies xcsp 600 in about 2.5 tanks of fuel, not to mention the valves looked like raw sewage.
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Injector oil is prediluted to flow easier through the pump.
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