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09-08-2009, 10:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Mukwonago, Wi
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New to sleds but excited!
Hi my names Herb. Im from waukesha, WI. and have never before riden a sled but id like to start getting in to it. Im a small guy 5'6 and 120lbs and am looking for a sled that would be agile, easy to handle but still FAST. Any suggestions on what would make a good first sled for me? (i like the look of ski doos!) also ill primarily be riding in crivitz.
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09-08-2009, 11:28 PM
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Location: Coldwater Ontario, Canada
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i would say a 500cc would be good to start. if you like the look of skidoo's then an mxz of some sort would be good for you. 500's are nice and light yet still have some punch to them. you could also go with a 600cc model to start. any year really is good as long as you can pick it up for a fair price.
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09-09-2009, 01:09 AM
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Welcome to the forum! I agree, a 500-600 cc sled is plenty fast to get your feet wet. There are a LOT of 'em out there to choose from, so do some reading and learn what to look for so you can avoid buyer's remorse after the sale. There is a LOT of good info on here to learn from. Good luck in your search!
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09-09-2009, 08:15 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wisconsin
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GO WISCONSIN...I do about 75% of my riding in waupaca county but idk were crivitz is im bad with directions
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09-09-2009, 10:55 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Coldwater Ontario, Canada
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yea a 5-600 is good to start on. i started on my older brothers 99' Mach 1. boy did that ever make me a speed freak. Like BC_Dan said, a 5-600 is plenty fast to get your feet wet on. Enjoy the world of white and enjoy the forum!
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09-09-2009, 10:15 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Mukwonago, Wi
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Thanks for the help ive been looking at 600s i like the formula 3s ive seen thus far but the triple worries me ive heard there not the most reliable. what is a fair price on a 97 formula 3 600? it has 3500 miles on it i was thinking about 1400. has new skis and track as well. mxz4life crivitz is north of greenbay and they have a ton of sled trials and atv trials. i have hunting land up there and its beautiful i cant wait to rip through it on a sled!
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09-09-2009, 10:30 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Coldwater Ontario, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbster89
Thanks for the help ive been looking at 600s i like the formula 3s ive seen thus far but the triple worries me ive heard there not the most reliable. what is a fair price on a 97 formula 3 600? it has 3500 miles on it i was thinking about 1400. has new skis and track as well. mxz4life crivitz is north of greenbay and they have a ton of sled trials and atv trials. i have hunting land up there and its beautiful i cant wait to rip through it on a sled!
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triples are very reliable depending on how you drive them. my brother has a 99' Mach 1 700 which is a triple cylinder engine. he's had it since 2003 and has about 10000 km's on it which is around 6000 miles or so without a rebuild and they have tons of power on the top end. a 97 formula 3 is a nice sled, a fair price depending if its in good condition could be 1500 - 2000$ what does everyone else think?
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09-09-2009, 10:32 PM
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lukeduke24
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hartford, WI
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ya, but triples suck a ton of gas!
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Polaris4life
Current sled: 1989 Polaris Indy 500 Classic
wanting: Polaris XCR
If u dont like snow, then just move to florida....
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09-09-2009, 10:38 PM
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lukeduke24
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hartford, WI
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im guessing like 2000. it has a brand new track and slides. plus im guessing its in pretty good shape. so i agree. what about a 583?
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Polaris4life
Current sled: 1989 Polaris Indy 500 Classic
wanting: Polaris XCR
If u dont like snow, then just move to florida....
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09-09-2009, 10:43 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Coldwater Ontario, Canada
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those 583's were bulletproof! if you can get your hands on one for a good price i'd say 2 grand or under then grab it. my buddy had a modded out formula z 583 and that thing would haul a$$ lol  would hit around 100 - 105 mph.
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09-09-2009, 10:43 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Coldwater Ontario, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbster89
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Mxz Mxz!!!
looks awesome. even with the hood replaced.
i'd even try and talk him down to 1800$ 
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09-09-2009, 10:46 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Mukwonago, Wi
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haha! i agree the mxz is cool what u think of the link? would that be a good deal id try to talk them down as much as i could. and as far as 583s go u mean like this one 1998 Ski Doo MXZ 583
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09-09-2009, 10:50 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Coldwater Ontario, Canada
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yup that'd be one of em. but with that 2000 MXZ you'd have the ZX chassis and an SC-10 II rear suspension. better handling and a smoother ride. the mxz would be a bit faster too. those 583's were really great though. tons of power and very reliable.
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09-09-2009, 10:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Mukwonago, Wi
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Awsome thanks snow pro im gonna look at both. youve been a great help. Would that be a good price on that 583? also what should the compression be on both those sleds im gonna take a compression test with me and check that out?
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09-09-2009, 11:05 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Groton NY
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Test with both plugs out, hold throttle wide open and pull at least 3 times as fast as possible.
Anything over 125 and both cyl within 10% is good.
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09-09-2009, 11:05 PM
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lukeduke24
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hartford, WI
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id try to go to 1500. but yea, 583's are the $hit!!! My friend has one and it just ripps!!!  
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Polaris4life
Current sled: 1989 Polaris Indy 500 Classic
wanting: Polaris XCR
If u dont like snow, then just move to florida....
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09-09-2009, 11:10 PM
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lukeduke24
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hartford, WI
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dude, get the polaris!!! those are awesome!! my friend has a 600 twin and it just ripps too!! its better than his 583. we have dragged them before and the polaris one no problem.
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Polaris4life
Current sled: 1989 Polaris Indy 500 Classic
wanting: Polaris XCR
If u dont like snow, then just move to florida....
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09-09-2009, 11:59 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Mukwonago, Wi
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uh now u got me thinking the polaris is the way to go! god this whole first sled thing is overwhelming! i guess it looks like i have three stops to make now ha! and thanks for the instructions on compression testing. sounds like its just like test comp on an outboard. which of these three sleds is lightest id wanna say the 583. am i right?
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09-10-2009, 07:50 AM
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I am Spartacus
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Milton Mills, NH
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Welcome aboard! The 583 would be the lightest. Motors are rock solid too.
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