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ICE NITROUS · 01-31-2005, 09:37 PM

I got my ice nitrous kit on my 00 summit and its working great.Im supposed to get a garrett turbo this week so i can put that on.ice nitrous is a pretty cool site check em out.ice nitrous systems

fr0st · 02-02-2005, 02:20 PM

and how do you plan to lubricate a turbocharger on a 2 cycle engine?

Fr0sT

ICE NITROUS · 02-06-2005, 09:38 PM

you add an extra pump for oil

600SE · 02-07-2005, 05:42 AM

Too much money for me......Din't know you could put a turbo charger on a 2 stroke without freezing up the carbs....do you heat up the air some how?????????

YamahaVector · 02-07-2005, 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by 600SE
Too much money for me......Din't know you could put a turbo charger on a 2 stroke without freezing up the carbs....do you heat up the air some how?????????

Too much money! What a surprise! I thought Bill Gates rode an 85 Indy Trail too.

ICE NITROUS · 02-07-2005, 01:26 PM

why does everyone keep asking me if the carbs will freeze?A turbo puts out much HOTTER than ambient air into the carbs.

ICE NITROUS · 02-07-2005, 01:27 PM

Plus whos ever had a carb freeze.Me maybe once im not even sure about that.No humidity in Montana.

BLinindoll · 02-09-2005, 07:34 PM

ICE NITROUS is exactly right.... why do you think intercoolers are such a huge thing? Turbos make A LOT of heat, considering they are connected to your exhaust! Duh.

600SE · 02-11-2005, 05:16 AM

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Originally posted by YamahaVector
Too much money! What a surprise! I thought Bill Gates rode an 85 Indy Trail too.

Wow alot of important people ride indy trails, Bill gates, your grand mother, I wonder Why you don't ride one yourself. I bet you like taking your sled apart and fixing things and other fun stuf like that.

(No offence to anyone out there 'Exept vector' Who rides a yamaha)

600SE · 02-11-2005, 05:22 AM

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Originally posted by BLinindoll
ICE NITROUS is exactly right.... why do you think intercoolers are such a huge thing? Turbos make A LOT of heat, considering they are connected to your exhaust! Duh.

Intercoolers for snowmobiles?Never heard of that before. Just because the turbo is next to the exhaust dosn't mean the air going through it is going to be hot.The exhaust doesn't exit inside the sled, not on my machine anyway.

BLinindoll · 02-11-2005, 03:12 PM

Ok, smart a$$.... I want you to go up to ANY turbocharger and grab it... go ahead, then send me a pic of your hand. I could use a good laugh. And a turbo on a sled is NO DIFFERENT then one on a car or truck or ANYTHING for that matter. A turbo is a turbo is a turbo. The only difference is basicly the size. They ALL give off heat, and lots of it. And I never said they made intercoolers for sleds. I was trying to explain to you that turbos give off heat by bringing up intercoolers. The idea is the same whether there talking about a sled or something larger. Bottom line, turbos give off heat. Now why don't you and your "war" go bother another forum.

Ya know what, I just realized after writing everything above that you don't know what a turbo is. Go find out what a turbo is and what a tubo setup actually looks like. The turbo is not "next to" the exhaust.... THE EXHAUST FLOWS THROUGH THE TURBO!!! Also, you might find out that turbos are constructed of METAL. An excellent conductor of HEAT!!!

This concludes our short introduction to Turbochargers 101.

600SE · 02-11-2005, 08:18 PM

If exhaust flows into the motor the motor would over heat....Im talking about the air flowing into the motor not where the exhaust flows through the impeler (kan't spel evry thig rite...)Duh that would be hot.......I am not as stupid as you i know that metal conducts heat....

Don't be disin scarface...........

skidoo_magoo · 02-11-2005, 08:49 PM

ok, he said that intercoolers are a popular for turbos. he didnt say in a snowmobie. no room forone. vector, i believe, was just making a point saying that if you're riding an 85 indy trail, chances are you are not modding it out big enough that you would want a turbo... do you even know what an intercooler does for a turbo? complete this sentence-- colder air is more dense, so...

this is intercoolers 101, which is recommended once you pass turbochargers101. if you failed turbochargerss 101, you will need to take remedial turbo.

600SE · 02-11-2005, 09:19 PM

-Vector is an @** hole, Tryin to tell me my sled sucks, so F*** him, Who gives what he says...

-More dense air = you can push more in because it fits in a smaller space

-Huh, you guys took "telling people off 101", I was thinking about taking that to but, that class was full

BLinindoll · 02-11-2005, 10:39 PM

why is it so hard for you to understand that if the exhaust is connected to the intake (by way of turbocharger) that the intake air will be HOT!!! (and by the way, I would like you to point out where I said exhaust flows into the engine. cant find it, can you?) The exhaust flows into the turbo, which spins a turbine. The turbine is connected to an impeller, which pumps the intake air into the engine. (this is all attached in a METAL housing, therefor, heat from the exhaust side of the turbo transfers over to the intake air side of the turbo. Thus, heating the intake air. Now going back to why this all started, CARBS WONT FREEZE BECAUSE THE INTAKE AIR IS HEATED BY THE TURBOCHARGER. THE INTAKE AIR IS NOW HOTTER , NOT COLDER.... when things (intake air) get hotter, they (carbs) tend to have LESS of a chance of freezing.... get it now genius?

This ends remedial turbochargers 101.
What class would you like to sign up for next?

By the way, Vector has a lot more credibility than you do. So yeah, a lot of us DO "give" what he says.

600SE · 02-11-2005, 11:30 PM

Ok, you guys win, I need sleep, need food, Feel realy tired...

Looks like the picture is small so you might have to make it bigger to see what it is....Im going to sleep for a few days now....

600SE · 02-11-2005, 11:37 PM

You know after i read my posts again...I did make it sound like i thought the turbo wasnt conected to the exhaust (which i did know) oh well I guess this whole thing was pointless....

skidoo_magoo · 02-12-2005, 06:53 AM

ok...not the answer i was looking for, but close enough. i was looking for something along the lines of more dense air adding more power. (actually, i just wanted to get involved in the classes here). good thing i wasnt really involved... just the one post, really.

it's good that you said you read back, and you could see how people didnt understand what you were saying. that's btter than just continuing after you found out that people are misunderstanding you.

ICE NITROUS · 02-12-2005, 11:27 PM

Jesus i really started a pissing contest.anyway.I have read that for every 5psi of boost the intake air raises 114 degrees F.
Just for reference the heat comes mostly from compressing the air not the exhaust.IM NOT SAYING THE EXHAUST DOESNT RAISE THE TEMPS OF THE INTAKE AIR,but it mostly comes from the compressing of the air.

BLinindoll · 02-13-2005, 01:53 AM

now, im not an expert on turbos, but 5psi would not be significant enough to raise the temp at all. think about a compressor tank.... they hold way more than 5psi, more like 150psi, and the tanks dont get hot. maybe im wrong, but i dont think i am. think about it... how hot is exhaust air? now take it and run it though the metal turbo housing.... its going to heat up the same way, say, a muffler heats up. its gonna get pretty hot. now pass the intake air through it.... thats what, to me, seems like it would make the most heat... but again, maybe im wrong.

maybe the figure that your getting (114 degrees for every 5psi) is just based on the amount of exhaust gas that is needed in order to reach that amount of boost. idk, maybe.