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Old 01-17-2013, 12:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I work out a deal with a fellow on CL to buy a mini kids sled. Gonna head down Sat to pick it up. Emails me this AM to say he got a higher offer and would I beat it?

Little ******* *****! Do people not honour agreements they make anymore? I can understand if I told him I wasn't coming or didn't respond to emails, but to come up with this... screw him, there are plenty of good kids sleds at the price I want to pay, just have to add another hour to my drive is all.

Makes me wonder if the sled was all that he's selling it to be if he's that dishonourable.

What do you think - let the little ******* keep the **** he's flogging or do you think this practice is acceptable, I'm overreacting and I should play ball?

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Old 01-17-2013, 01:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No, the practice is not acceptable. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who play that game. Move on. Hopefully the guy that's willing to pay a higher price backs out. Maybe it would teach the seller a lesson......
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you're traveling to get it, I would expect a seller to be more considerate. However, until $$$ is in hand (or a deposit) he/she really has no obligation to sell it to you.

I took a 3-hour trip (each way) a couple years ago to look at a sled in ID. When I got there, the seller had someone already looking at it, and he bought it before I had a chance. Worst part was: the buyer was a local dealer! The seller KNEW how far I drove to look at it... some people are don't care about anybody but themselves... so I can understand your position.

You have to look for something good in it. In my case, I had 6 hours in a car to talk to my son (captive audience). In your case, if the seller is that big of a dud, maybe you avoided buying a "problem" sled by what he did. You never know...
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A couple of weeks ago I was buying a trailer. I talked to a guy, one town over and we agreed I was coming over. I told him I was going to the bank to the get the cash, and would be over, 45 min tops. I get there, and he tells me someone else stopped (saw it for sale on the side of the road) and bought it, and was already gone. SOB! Literally, we're talking 30 min...But in the long run, the next day I found a much better one, for the same money, so it all worked out, I just had to drive 2 hrs to go get it.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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There were two I had my eye on, the kids liked the look of the first, but that's the one owned by you know who. The other is further, but should be just as good. The first had some performance extras on it whereas the second is stock.

The fact that the first did have the extras on it makes me wonder if the owner had been riding it hard... maybe it is better to pass on it.

Sorry for language in my first post... just gets my blood boiling when people act so poorly. If you're open to the first person who shows up with cash in hand - which I have no problem with - then say so up front, otherwise you're (mis)leading people to believe they have secured themselves a small window of security. It really isn't that hard to be upfront and show a little integrity.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have buddy of mine go look at a 800 storm on a week day and told the dude that he would be back on the weekend to pick it up with money in hand and they both shook on the deal. Day before he went to pick it up the guy called him up and said there was a guy at his house looking at it as they speak and said that the guy offered a higher price and asked my buddy if he would pay more, and my buddy said if that guy is willing to give more than what they agreed on then go for it and Hung up on him. Later that day we were talking about it and I decided to get on Craigslist to see if the guy took it off and it turns out that he re posted it with new pictures.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sorry, but I can see the seller's point. I sell stuff on CL all the time. I can't count the number of people who would "be right over" to buy something and never show up. I've turned people away all through the week to save it for someone coming on the weekend and buy it and never showed up. Never again.

I sold a car last weekend via CL and had someone coming from over 1 hr away to look at it. Another person called and came to see it the same day, about 4 hours earlier than the other person was supposed to come. THey put a deposit on the car and I called the other looker to tell them I sold it. I've been burned so many times by potential buyers, I can see the person's point. Have you ver sold anything on CL? 1000 idiots for every one buyer.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yup sold my 92 wildcat 700 on CL a few months ago. There is no difference weather you put it CL or put it in the paper or put it out to the Road there are idiots everywhere.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I guess I see a hand shake as a deal and I know a lot of ppl don't stand by it. And if they ask me to pull the post down I tell them I will as soon as you pull it out of the year and if you want it that bad then you either come buy it or put a deposit down to hold it
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I always say "first to get the cash in my hand" and will rarely hold anything for anyone over the phone. If they can get me a deposit via Paypal or a friend, then I'll hold it. I've sent money for purchases and also got burnt myself. I was on the way back from the bank with full payment to drop off to the seller's brother's house a block away and when I got there, I was told the sled was sold. Probably for the better.

The last sled I sold included delivery so I wouldn't sign the ownership until I had all the money in hand.
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't disagree with the opinions above, incl there being loads of idiots on CL/Kijiji. My policy is "first one to put cash in my hand gets it" and I tell people that. No holds, no expectations. Now, if someone were to make a deposit, well that changes the game, but I haven't yet had to go down that road. I wouldn't ever tell someone I'll hold something and then sell it anyway. That's just not on.


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Tell him you will give him more money and then just never go, etc... Play the game right back
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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In my younger days, I might have tried that. I'll just let him keep it. If he sells it, good for him. If he loses both sales, I hope he learns something.


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Old 01-17-2013, 09:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I agree with the "cash in hand policy." If someone asks me to hold something I am selling without making a deposit or anything like that, I just tell them straight up that I won't hold without a deposit. If someone comes in to buy it I'm not gonna miss a chance at selling for someone who might buy it or might not.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:26 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm selling my sleds right now too and I sure do hate Craigslist guy came yesterday said he would be there at 4 showed up at 5:30 then said he would be here today at 4 to pick them up never came who knows maybe he'll be here tomorrow.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:40 PM   #16 (permalink)
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It really isn't that hard to be upfront and show a little integrity.
It's not hard, but it sure isn't common.

I've been pretty lucky with the deals I have had to drive for, all were as advertised and expected. It's a bad deal that a fellow sledder would do that to you. Karma is a bugger, hope he gets stuck in the snow and no one comes to help
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Guy never came today either so i sold it an hour ago to some other people i would love to hear him complain to me for selling it when he didn't show up twice and didn't answer any messages or calls. Just gotta get rid of the jag now!
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I agree with small engine guy. And really, if you were the seller and you got a higher offer and nothing was really official, would you turn down a higher offer? Of course it would be diffrent if he didin`t call and he told you after you had driven. This fall I sold an old kayak I had, and I arranged to meet a buyer. A little later that day, someone else phoned and said he wanted to bye it, and he would be driving for an hour, but he would be looking at it earlier than the first buyer. I told the first caller that since the second caller was looking at it first, he would get first dibs. In the end the second caller bought it. The world of sales and bargaining is a tough place, and everyone can`t always be happy.
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My point exactly.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:19 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I don't disagree entirely, but I feel like if you give your word, you give your word. I also think you can kind of tell if someone is yanking your chain or not. Not always of course. Last night, I sold a lot of video games via CraigsList. 3 DSis and 15 games. The guy and his wife who came were so nice, and he commented how at first he thought my add was "too good to be true" so he provided lots of details in his contact to me to prove he wasn't a scam. And he stayed in constant communication as he was driving here. His opinion is to ever 1 legit craiglist reply, there's 8 garbage ones. He's probably right.
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