chriscraft

What is a suitable alternative to Polaris VES Gold? I have 2 sleds, both with Liberty 600 engines and the price per gallon for the gold is just ridiculous.
I was told that Wal Mart brand produces better results (cleaner power valves) than the gold.
I wouldn't mind it if the price were 25.00 to 30.00 per gallon but upwards of 50.00??? That is just nuts.

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Mark

360 xrt

a lot of polaris gurus say run the ves gold or suffer the consequents. amsoil people say there oil is just as good. i personally,use the ves gold. i try to buy it on sale early for around $42 a gallon. i think amsoil is $38 a gallon.

BC_Dan

I use Amsoil Interceptor. Klotz makes a good oil, too. Or use cheaper oil and clean the valves more frequently. I have used the Wally World stuff, it does ok, but stinks a lot worse than Polaris Gold.

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Polaris650freak

You guys know that mystik has been proven tested better than amsoil and it's half the price.
With that being said I have never ran ves gold in any of my ves Polaris sleds and no problems ecee


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bertschb

When I got back into snowmobiling I bought several gallons of VES Gold thinking I'd be burning through a bunch of it each season. I'm using waaaaaaaaay less oil than I thought I would. So much less that I actually put tape on the outside of the oil reservoir to mark the level each ride to make sure my sled is actually using oil. I spend MUCH more in gas for the sleds and Suburban than I do for the oil. No comparison.

Spending a tad more for VES Gold is peanuts compared to the overall cost of running sleds. I'm not saying that good oil isn't expensive, just that it's a minor cost overall. Spend the extra couple bucks for good oil. If nothing else, the peace of mind is worth it.

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Polaris650freak

I go through about 3/4 of a quart in 50 miles. I'll go through a gallon in a weekend easily. Run the mystik oil it's about 18 bucks


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bertschb

Holy cow!!!! A gallon in a weekend???? Now I'm freaking out again wondering if there's something wrong with my sled.

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Polaris650freak

My stuff is well oiled. I also have to clean my ves valves a lot. I put on about 100 miles last weekend and my oil tank was Half gone, now some people's sleds wont use much oil, but my oil pump is richened up, I need to back it off once I get some more miles on the motor.


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kccats

The non syn oil needs more! The full syn oil you can use alot less of it!

Phaze

When I had my Polaris Ultra, I went thru about a qt per tank. Approx 100 miles.

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2011/2012 miles: 737
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rgoers

Probably is!!!

At 50:1, you should be going through (roughly) a quart of oil per tank of fuel. If you have to mark the level, I wouldn't be venturing TOO far out in the woods with it...

Gotta keep the "gallon in a weekend" in perspective too... I see you're from OR. The guy who goes through a gallon in a weekend is from WI. Two totally different riding areas. He's probably putting in 300-400 miles in a weekend. You and I put in 40-60 miles in a day, and we're BEAT after doing that! There's a huge difference between the trails and types of riding...

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bertschb

Well, it's a new sled - at least it was last year. Maybe they use a little less oil. I dunno. I put 350 miles on it last year and never added any oil. It was still above the fill line.

This summer I actually used a syringe to remove as much of the Polaris Blue break in oil as I could before adding some VES Gold. I figured it was broken in long ago and wanted to switch to the synthetic oil. I think I bought 6-7 gallons of oil with the sled. I won't be buying any more oil for a long time. I do go through a LOT of gas though!

And yes, 50 miles would be a loooong day in my neck of the woods.

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Polaris650freak

Ya we will knock down 300-450 miles if we get a good riding weekend in. So that's why I go through so much oil.


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bertschb

That's amazing! How far do you get from your tow vehicle? Can't wrap my head around a 200 mile snowmobile ride. Wow

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BC_Dan

And those guys can't get how we can be so tired you can't walk after an "easy" 50 mile day

Plus, they would be looking hard out here for the gas pump and the taverns, too!

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rgoers

You got that right! That's one thing I won't miss no matter where I ride... the bar-hoppers. Can't understand how you can spend $12k on a new machine, just to put 100 miles on it in a season running from bar to bar.

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Polaris650freak

Sometimes we've gotten as far as 4 hours one way. We will get up at 8 am and ride until 1 or 2 in the morning when we go up north and stay around rhinelander or eagle river depending if we use our friends cabin. I did 320 miles one weekend on a 1980 txl Indy. Now talk about a back breaker. Yet my pro x isn't any better.
None of us drink though so we only stop at a bar for food.

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BC_Dan

And to let your bottom rest

It's all in the location. Riding is riding, and it's all fun!! I can't even imagine pulling 300+ miles on some of that old iron. I feel numb just thinking about it Thank the Lord for 17" of suspension travel!

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