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Old 12-10-2012, 08:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I found a sled I am interested in. 2010 Polaris Dragon 800. More track than what I need 163" as I never go to the mountains but looks good and he is asking $7200 for it which I could probably negotiate lower. Do these have the same top end issues that the 08 and 09 RMK's?

My buddy owns a Polaris dealership and he has a nice 2010 Polaris Dragon 800 with a 163" track. We are flat landers and never go to the mountains. What are the cons of a flat lander using a 163" track? I have never had anything larger than a 121". I have two of those right now and would be getting rid of one for this sled. Your advice is greatly appreciated. My son sleds with his buddies and they all have 150" + tracks. He tells me he feels left out - LOL

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Old 12-10-2012, 09:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Unless you get tons of snow, I don't think anything over 144 is even practical for us flatlanders. I imagine you would have overheating problems on the trails.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The general feeling is that the longer the tack the better off you are, but on the flatlands it doesn't give u any advantages. Sure, it will handle in deep snow better. But on the trails it will feel as if you are driving an 18 wheeler. For the riding it sounds like you are doing I would go 136", anymore and it may feel strange.


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Old 12-10-2012, 09:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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the more track the better. always. it may not be needed but it does give a better, more confortable ride. idk bout that motor wait for someone else to reply:P
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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We get our fair share of snow but nothing super deep. Can you tell me why it would overheat? I am not familiar with anything larger than 121" but my son seems to think our next sled can not have a track any shorter than 144" He tells me he gets stuck all the time with the 121", I have to admit even I have gotten stuck.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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With the longer track it'll be harder to kick enough snow up under the tunnel on hardpacked trails. You maybe need longer track, but 163" is too long in my opinion.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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163 is crazy long for flatlanding I think. I wouldnt go bigger than a 144 but would stick around the 136 range

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Old 12-11-2012, 06:28 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Yep a 136 will work perfect for you! Is your 121 a 11/4" lug? Likely more like a 3/4 ?
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:12 AM   #9 (permalink)
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keep in mind that sled also has a narrow ski stance. It might seem a little tippy...
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I was talking with one of the mechanics at an area Polaris dealer who had an 08 Dragon 800 and had all the issues he could have with it, then got a '10 Assault and didn't have any issues with it the whole season. Can't speak from first-hand experience though. And I'd have to agree with everyone else on the 163'' is too long for anywhere other than way out West.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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136" is plenty. Good luck in the twisties with a 163. You'll practically have to come to a stop to turn it. Like taking a bus down the trails. I'd keep looking.....
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You will NEVER be able to turn that thing on the trails!!! The only way to turn a long track like that is by carving, and you don't get enough snow for that.

I came from the NE and I can tell you I wouldn't want anything over a 136" for riding there. Heck, I don't even want something that long where I am now... and we get 10' of snow on the ground at one time!!! If you know how to ride; a 144" with 2" paddles will get you anywhere! The only thing a 163 is good for is going straight up mountains - nothing else!
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I will echo the others. The lug height on that 163" is 2.4". When you ride hardpack trails, the lugs are horrible for traction and the back end will be all over. Manufacturer recommends not to exceed 75 mph top speed, as the reciprocating mass of the track at speeds greater than that can cause the track to come apart. Mountain riders aren't concerned with cornering ability on the trails and definitely don't care about top speed going up the hill.

The taller lug height of the track also contributes to excessive hyfax wear as well as overheating on the hardpack.

If you ride mostly trails, this is not the sled for you. THere are much better options out there.
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