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05-27-2012, 10:32 PM
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How to figure out cc's after boreing
Does anyone know a formula to figure outthe cc's of a snowmobile engine after having it bored
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05-28-2012, 12:57 AM
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π • radius2 • height = cylindrical volume
This way will hurt your head less: Calculating the Volume of a cylinder
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05-28-2012, 06:59 AM
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What are you boreing?
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05-28-2012, 10:15 AM
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Bore diameter times stroke length.
Add the percentage difference between the original and the new bore.
So. if the original was 67mm D x 68mm S, that would equal 4556mm volume.
over bore of 0.010 equals 45.56mm additional volume which added to the original equals 4601.56 cubic mm.
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05-28-2012, 11:51 AM
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Volume of a cylinder is as JD stated or as follows
pi x bore x bore / 4 x stroke = volume.
so in RJ's example, 3.1416 x 67mm x 67mm / 4 x 68mm = 239744.9 cubic mm. Divide that by 1000 to get cubic cm and you get 239.7 cc.
Doing it JD's way
3.1416 x 33.5mm x 33.5mm x 68mm = 239744.9 cubic mm
divide by 1000, you get 239.7 cubic cm
That would be for one cylinder, multiply by number of cylinders for total displacement. There is a slight difference between calculating as above and using the calculator JD posted, is the difference in the value of pi used in the calculation.
Add a .010" overbore, that would look like this
Convert inches to mm
.010" = .254mm
67mm + .254mm = 67.254mm (new bore diameter)
3.1416 x 67.254 x 67.254 / 4 x 68 = 241556.1 cubic mm
Divide by 1000 to get 241.6 cc.
241.6 - 239.7 = 1.9 cc increase in displacement for a .010" overbore.
I know this is right because my 11th grader checked my work
Last edited by BC_Dan; 05-28-2012 at 12:17 PM.
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05-28-2012, 02:01 PM
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Now let's tackle dome heads and calculate the volume of a hemispherical combustion chamber!
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05-28-2012, 03:12 PM
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I'll have my son get back to you on those
(seriously, the kid is crazy talented at math... he had already completed HS senior calculus before he was in 9th grade!)
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05-30-2012, 06:38 AM
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Cyl is easy. Just a piece of plexy glass with a small hole. With the spark plug in, put a little grease around the edge and set the plexy on it. With a gradeuated beaker or turkey baster, or suringe, add water till it starts to come up in the hole. That is the volume of the head!
Now with that volume and the volume of the cyl, you can divide them and get your compression ratio!
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05-31-2012, 03:31 AM
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Now my head hurts...
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05-31-2012, 08:18 AM
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PPE. Wear a helmet when you do math, your head won't hurt
Or is that tin foil? I forget!
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05-31-2012, 10:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BC_Dan
PPE. Wear a helmet when you do math, your head won't hurt
Or is that tin foil? I forget!
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anything will help, while i pound my
head against the wall from confusion!!
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06-01-2012, 07:07 AM
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It's a tin foil helmet! Geez you rookies!
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06-01-2012, 03:43 PM
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Skip a step: bore x bore x stroke x constant x number of cylinders. Constant = 0.7854.
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06-01-2012, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JD8345RT
Now let's tackle dome heads and calculate the volume of a hemispherical combustion chamber! 
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Using cylinder volume and compression ratio, it can be done!  pi x 1/2bore^2 x stroke = the second number in the compression stroke (simplified).
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Do the snow dance with me!!! We don't get enough in Vermont!
And God said: "Let there be snow."
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06-03-2012, 10:43 AM
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Not times 2 times itself or squared
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06-04-2012, 07:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smallengineguy
Now my head hurts...
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My thought exactly,,,,
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