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Old 12-15-2011, 11:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How to carry/transport sled

Heres the deal. I've got a 2011 F150 Super Crew. 5.5' bed. Im hoping to pick up a new/left over F5 LXR (it was either that or the 570 which i dont want). Might end up picking up a different left over if the price is right, but i want an F5 LXR Minimum.. Anyhow, the arctic cat website said the total width was 47.3" or something like that. Im assuming the widest part is the ski's, so the ski's are say 48" wide on the outside, correct? Problem is that the wheel well's pop out 9" on each side and the bed is only 58" wide, which means i only have 40" clearence between the wheel well's. Basically, that means that the sled will not fit in the bed. Original i was hoping to have the ski's between the wheel well, and get one of those Hitch mounted bed extenders and have a piece of plywood running from the bed all the way to the extender, so that the weight is distributed on the bed as well as the bed extender, and so that the track doesnt have all of its weight sitting on the 1" metal bar. Unfortunately, that wont work now. Any idea's as to how else i might be able to carry the sled? I dont want to have to buy a trailer because if i buy a single sled trailer and suddenly my father or someone else picks one up, i'll have a useless trailer. I was thinking of taking 2x4's and stacking them up in the bed and then putting a piece of 3/4" plywood on top of the 2x4's so that the sled is above the wheel well. Any idea as to if that would work? would that leave the sled too high and as a result in danger of damage from flying rocks and stuff? Seemed to me like a good idea as i could custom build it and then with the help of 2 or so people just pick it up and drop it in every time i need to tow it around.. My father said it was a stupid idea, though haha. But id rather spend 200$ In wood and use the bed rather than spend 1500$+ on a little landscaping trailer thats only good for 1 sled. On the other hand, however, i'd have to fit all of my gear and clothes and what not in the back seat of the truck, which means i wouldnt be able to bring too many people with me. If youve got any awesome idea's that are proven to work, please let me know! My father is lending me money to pick up the sled however i dont want to have to go and buy a damn trailer now, too. Just an FYI, im young, haha. Im not a millionaire or anything i just have my own little business set up that makes me enough money to pay the payments on the truck and a few grand saved up for a sled :P.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Lambo,
You are in a quandry that is tough on all accounts. If you watch Craigs List you can PU a 2 place open trailer, with a tilt bed, for about 500-600. It's more than you wanted to spend but does take care of your needs and you now have a trailer to use all year long. Look for a functional trailer vs the top named brand names. Tis the season for sled trailers so the price is at a premiem right now. Good Luck hope that gave you some insight or a different prespective to look at.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I picked up a nice 5x8 utility trailer that's low to the ground, has a plywood deck, and will haul a half ton for $200 off Craigslist. Yes, you need to have a place to store it but it hauls 1 sled real nice and I use it for firewood, quad, and landscaping stuff in the summer. Beats the snot out of lifting that monster sled into the bed of your truck!

Or you could try this... http://www.snowmobileforum.com/gener...ome-built.html
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Skid, that link is basically exactly what i wanted to do.

As for that 5x8' trailer... how did you fit your snowmobile in there? According to arctic cat the F5 LXR is 118' long, which means i'd need a 10' trailer MINIMUM and thats pushing it with 2' clearence. so more like a 12' trailer.
Problem is that there arent too many snowmobilers in my area so its nearly impossible to find a trailer within 50 miles haha. and theres only 1 or 2 within 100. Contacted some guys that sell lanscaping trailers.. may pick up a 6x12 or 7x12 lanscaping trailer, but again itll only be for 1 sled.. :/. Idk lol ive been trying to find a used one but i dont want to buy a 10 year old POS thats falling apart and needs a new deck and tires for 500$ Less than a new one. Makes no sense.
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I have older sleds and they're a shorter by 8 or 10 inches. They do hang over the deck front & rear but as long as I move them forward enough to keep the center of balance in front of the trailer axle it tows without a problem. You will have a similar problem with the 5'6" bed on your truck. The trailer isn't pretty but it does the job in a pinch...just have to patiently scan Craigslist and local ads for what you want. Took me 5 weeks to find this trailer and months to find a decent deal on an enclosed 10' Triton.
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couple of my sleds have not fit between the wheel wells on different trucks before. What i've done is just lift up one side until you can get it past the wheel well. make sure you've got a good bedliner and just give her a shove forward. then I usually lift the rear of the sled up and fold tailgate up underneath, so the sled sits at a forward angle. it won't go anywhere. If your sled is sticks out extra far just strap the rear down.
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build some ramps, buy a sled with reverse, and put the sled in backwards, I did that for 2 years! but I didnt even have ramps, I drove the sled up a snowbank, teetered it on the top so the bottom of the track was exposed, and backed the tailgate under it. Pulled the sled 3 ft into the back of my Colorado and the skis barely went off the end of the tailgate, with the track easily fitting between the wheelwells. Thats at least your cheapest option!
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build some ramps, buy a sled with reverse, and put the sled in backwards, I did that for 2 years! but I didnt even have ramps, I drove the sled up a snowbank, teetered it on the top so the bottom of the track was exposed, and backed the tailgate under it. Pulled the sled 3 ft into the back of my Colorado and the skis barely went off the end of the tailgate, with the track easily fitting between the wheelwells. Thats at least your cheapest option!
Thought about doing that but it wouldnt work. Ive got a short 5.5' bed. The skii's would be hanging off the bed, i believe. The idea was even though the bed is short, if the motor is all the way at the front of the bed it wont tip over or anything.

I think the whole idea of putting it crooked and having it hang on the tailgate is what i'm going to do. Thats what my fathers idea was. What im worried about is having the sled all crooked and stuff. The right side would be on the bottom of the liner and the left side would be on the well. idk im worried about what kind of damage that might do to the skii's or something in the long run. One big pothole and who knows what will happen
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If you have a harbor freight nearby these are nice trailers for the money!

4' x 8' Utility Trailer - 1720 Lb. Capacity
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If you have a harbor freight nearby these are nice trailers for the money!

4' x 8' Utility Trailer - 1720 Lb. Capacity
Well damn! That might actually work! Haha i could throw a custom cut wooden deck on that that is 10' to fit the sled..!!!!!!!. Hell for 350 why not.
i'd say i love you but someone here might question me, soo.. thank you fine sir. Haha. Im going to have my father take a look at that and see what he thinks. Chances are he's going to say something along the lines of "what the fuck is that? lets just strap the thing to the fuckin' roof" or something like that, so we'll see lol. But for 350 why not. I could always throw the thing in the yard, too, that way he cant complain that its taking up space on the driveway haha.
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Lol yea you can just lean that thing against a building or a garage wall when you're not using it. That's what I used to do.
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If you have a harbor freight nearby these are nice trailers for the money!

4' x 8' Utility Trailer - 1720 Lb. Capacity
Close to what I have only mine's 5' wide and has a plywood deck. Works great for me!
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build some ramps, buy a sled with reverse, and put the sled in backwards, I did that for 2 years!
The biggest risks with doing that are:

- The machine's weight is primarily in the front, which means that more than half of the weight would be riding the tailgate.

- Same as above, which means you're putting a lot of weight to the rear, and it could have significant impact on handling.

This guy has a decent idea, which is to build cross supports to raise the height of the deck above the wheel wells. Then, it isn't an issue any more.


There was another one that I had found where the guy built two individual ramps that slide up under the deck in the bed, and then pull out and drop down to provide the ramp part. It was an interesting idea, but he said he was still trying to make it better.

Another alternative is a Sled Deck on the back of the truck. Some people love 'em, others hate 'em. Personally, I wouldn't do it, but it's an interesting idea.
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Found the other one I was looking for...

http://www.snowmobileforum.com/gener...my-pickup.html
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Trying to half-ass is usually a bad idea... I'm all for enginuity, but seriously, a used 2 place 8x10 goes for $500 to a little more if you search around...

It takes 1 minute to back up to a trailer and hook up. Loading and securing in a pickup bed is going to take MUCH longer. Its enough of a pain in the ass that you will probably not sled nearly as much.
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Trying to half-ass is usually a bad idea... I'm all for enginuity, but seriously, a used 2 place 8x10 goes for $500 to a little more if you search around...

It takes 1 minute to back up to a trailer and hook up. Loading and securing in a pickup bed is going to take MUCH longer. Its enough of a pain in the ass that you will probably not sled nearly as much.

Considering i'd have to drive like 5 hours every time to sled, the extra minute or 2 is no big deal.
Anyhow, in my area the demand for trailers are huge.. Or, well, actually its just that there is a lack of trailers. a 2 place trailer costs 1500+ here, USED. a 6x12 landscaping trailer runs at over 1k used :/. Trust me ive been looking for decent used trailers and i cant find anything for a decent price. Im liking that 4'x8' trailer thing from harbor freight though. How does that thing do @ highway speeds? i read on the description for the 12" tire & wheel that the max speed is 55. I'd hope to do more than that on the highway, though, haha.
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Keep the bearings greased and inspected, or bearing buddies, you won't have any problems. Been from the iowa border to duluth with mine and no issues. The only thing I found is redo the fenders cuz they are junk.. lol..
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Another option is to buy an old camper and strip it down to the frame like I did.



It's low to the ground and tows real easy.
Loading is not much of an issue as I have a set of fold up ramps an I just drive the sled off the side without any ramp.
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Trying to half-ass is usually a bad idea... I'm all for enginuity, but seriously, a used 2 place 8x10 goes for $500 to a little more if you search around...

It takes 1 minute to back up to a trailer and hook up. Loading and securing in a pickup bed is going to take MUCH longer. Its enough of a pain in the ass that you will probably not sled nearly as much.
Towing a trailer also requires an additional registration, MAY impact your insurance, and will definitely cut into your mileage. Plus there's the potential for a blow-out, which can ruin your day AND your sled (not to mention what it could do to the car next to you).

Let's not forget that having the sled on the trailer doesn't help your traction at all in the snow, either. And towing a trailer in slippery conditions can be unnerving.

With that said - I use a trailer. Even if I'm only going to take one sled out (just me), trailer. I just won't subject my truck to the kind of abuse it would get to put a sled in and out of it.

You have the potential of bending the panel at the front of the bed against the cab if you hit it too hard, the skags will shred the liner (if you don't have something under it), my 10' sled won't really fit in a 5'5" bed (it will hang out over 2 feet with gate down), and it's a $#@! load of weight on the gate going in and out (as well as during transport) that the gate isn't rated to handle on my truck.

Hopefully you see that there are two distinct sides to the discussion, and a decision is as personal as what sled to ride in the first place.
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If you had a long bed truck it would be a lot easier to haul a sled but since your truck (and mine) has a 5'6" bed it's just near impossible to sensibly haul an 9' sled without endangering the truck or the sled. Still think your best option is a cheap trailer although meburdick is right about the gas mileage and traction.
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