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600RacerX · 04-28-2012, 11:15 PM

Sweet. And ya, I've had so many problems uploading to youtube before that it's just ridiculous. Movie Maker is just a flat out pain in the rear. My Mac now with iMovie is a lot easier to use and super simple to upload, but it still has it's quirks.

And now I am definitely wishing I went for the 500. This still has plenty of power for mud and for any work you want, but IMO it's Slooww. Found myself to the bar quite a bit. Maybe that's just me being used to sleds being a lot faster (and the fact that I'm riding a sportsman).

And I just got done this week fabbing up a gas rack for the front rack. Used 1" angle iron and steel mesh. Going to send it out for Powder this week. Should look pretty decent. Also thinking I should take off the rear rack considering it's the wrong one and was just "shoved" in there.

jordandakota · 04-30-2012, 11:16 PM

Well, I got screwed over today. I traded my 3 wheeler for an '87 Honda TRX250x, four stroke. The guy said it needed carb work, no biggie, it ran. When I got there, he said he couldn't get it going but I still traded. Brought it home, got it started, and it was burning more d@mn oil than any 2 stroke I've ever seen. More smoke than the bug trucks that go around town. HOLY $H!T!!!! smoke. Got the adapter for my comp. tester, she's got 60 psi. The guy told me the carb was dirty and kicking it over it honestly felt like it was just fine, so I didn't think I needed to check compression. Lesson learned. So I let my head cool off and then started tearing it down. Got the plastic and gas tank out of my way and pulled the carb and such. I'll pull the head and maybe cylinder off tomorrow. Parts will be about $160 shipped to rebuild. I guess it's kind of bittersweet. I have to put money I didn't plan on into it, but dad was telling me he wants me to build it up enough to hold it's own against the larger quads. I have access to a fully equipped machine shop and a guy with the know-how, so I'm gonna do some internal work with it while I have it out as long as the cylinder is re-usable. It has a DG pipe with no baffle, and while it was running, it's about as loud as a straight piped Harley. Doesn't sound as nice, but the loudness is there.

600RacerX · 04-30-2012, 11:38 PM

I know you don't need me to tell you this, but that was a bad move bro.... lol

. Win some lose some. I for one won't ever be trading my equipment that I know is good for something of essentially unknown condition. When purchasing I just assume everything the seller is saying is lies (because most of the time it is).

We are looking at picking up another quad just for a trail cruiser. Pops says gotta be under 2. Now, looking at a lot of the stuff out there, I don't really see the point in risking up to 2k on something that was probably beat to snot and not maintained. I'd rather just spend the extra grand and get something that's practically new. With this logic, I have come to two options.
2001 Honda 400EX (a bit overpriced IMO, but always worth it to buy something that's mint)
2008 Z400 SPECIAL EDITION
The EX obviously being closer to budget and still pretty nice, but if I can get the Z down a couple hundred, that would be SICK!

YamahaSS440 · 05-01-2012, 06:47 AM

That EX is way overpriced! I bought an 03 400EX last year with a wider axel, FMF pipe, nerf bars, aftermarket front bumper, and ITP holeshots for $1300 with extra oil, stock axel, shop manual and more. Hey where is that ATV park you went to?

Renagade · 05-01-2012, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 600RacerX

I know you don't need me to tell you this, but that was a bad move bro.... lol

. Win some lose some. I for one won't ever be trading my equipment that I know is good for something of essentially unknown condition. When purchasing I just assume everything the seller is saying is lies (because most of the time it is).

^^^^^^amen!!!^^^^^^^
i always bring my tools to inspect a future purchace. always nice to know
what your bringing home. and a basic idea of whats wrong.
just dont tell the seller, cause i had one guy back out cause he
saw it was gunna cost $20 to fix... kinda hard sumtimes...
but worth it.
well at least you will have a new top end... ud prolly do it anyhow!

Gaylord Huta · 05-01-2012, 07:33 AM

I'll be cruising around in our new 2012 Polaris Ranger 500! YAY! Swapping motors in my primary sled, buying a new trailer, lots of time at the cabin and on the pontoon! I'm so loving this now since our winter was such a flop.

600RacerX · 05-01-2012, 09:47 AM

Its in tigerton, wi. And I guess the ex is considerably over priced. I just want a bike that'll last without problems every weekend. This led me to look for low use pure stock machines. I think its safe to say that a machine without nerfs probably wasnt beat.

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jordandakota · 05-01-2012, 10:12 AM

I think what happened with my quad is that it wasn't rejetted when the pipe was put on. It's a DG alloy pipe, and has NO baffle of any sort. Basically a glorified straight pipe. It's so loud I seriously can't ride it in town. Shouldn't be too big a deal to rebuild it I guess, but the guy was dishonest about the whole thing. If he would have disclosed that it might need to be rebuilt, I would be fine with it and probably still would have traded. Lesson still learned. Don't trust anyone, and ALWAYS test compression before I buy. I may even throw the tester in the Jeep so I always have it.

Quad related Q: This thing has a spark plug I've NEVER seen before. It's an NGK DR8ESL. It's between 5/8'' and 13/16'' like everything else I've ever seen. I had to use a 3/4'' 6 point deep well to get it out, and it was still a little loose. Anybody have an idea of what size this thing is? Must be 11/16''? My head was a little hot last night when I was tearing it apart and didn't try the other sizes.

jax833 · 05-01-2012, 10:22 AM

gone fishing

600RacerX · 05-01-2012, 07:26 PM

I'm putting money down that it took the cylinder with it. Get ready to bore that b*tch out.

That really sucks man.

jordandakota · 05-02-2012, 12:02 AM

Got it apart tonight. Cylinder is actually fine. Still has a hint of cross-hatch even. Valves are alright, but I'm gonna replace them and maybe take some material out around them while they're out. My grandpa is a wizz with this kind of stuff and he'll be helping me, so I'm not gonna be too afraid of messing stuff up. He knows what he's doing. It shouldn't take too much to rebuild it, I just need to try get the jetting correct for that pipe so it doesn't pop again. I have some pics but am too lazy to put them on here right now.

jordandakota · 05-03-2012, 10:50 AM

Yesterday I ordered a Wiseco complete top end kit. Piston, rings, pin, circlips, and gaskets. My uncle has a hone and knows how to use it. Parts should be here on Tuesday. I managed to get it apart without knocking the timing chain off the bottom sprocket it rides on, so as long as I line up the top sprocket with where it needs to go, I should be alright with the timing. I have an online book for it with torque specs and I'm sure timing is in there as well. Should be easy enough to get it back in time. I also discovered why it blew. Cleaned the carb so it's ready to go back in, and in the process found that the main jet was a 125 and pilot was a 38. Those are stock sizes and it's running a full DG pipe that's WAY less restrictive than the factory exhaust it was jetted for.

Alex_b · 05-03-2012, 01:05 PM

Off-season is clean yard , lawn mowing season.

blah.

the snow is so much cleaner.

600RacerX · 05-03-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jordandakota

Yesterday I ordered a Wiseco complete top end kit. Piston, rings, pin, circlips, and gaskets. My uncle has a hone and knows how to use it. Parts should be here on Tuesday. I managed to get it apart without knocking the timing chain off the bottom sprocket it rides on, so as long as I line up the top sprocket with where it needs to go, I should be alright with the timing. I have an online book for it with torque specs and I'm sure timing is in there as well. Should be easy enough to get it back in time. I also discovered why

Did you up the compression ratio in the piston too? I know for wheelers a lot of guys use cp pistons. Wisecos are good too

jordandakota · 05-03-2012, 04:42 PM

This is a 12:1 piston. From what I can gather through the limited info I can find on the subject, the factory ratio was also 12:1. I tried getting a hold of DG for jetting help, but no response through emailing them. I might just try on my own by going up a bunch and keep checking on it and work my way down. I think some guys run around a 160 with a different pipe, so I'll maybe try there or a little higher just to stay on the safe side.

600RacerX · 05-03-2012, 07:23 PM

On a new topic (maybe SS can help me): Which is a better bike? A (04) TRX450R or a similar year 400EX. Yes I do realize that the 450r is a much more advanced bike, but it also requires more maintenance. I guess the main things are the EX has e-start and a bulletproof motor. But the 450r has SOO much more power and a better suspension.

I would say a LTZ/kfx/dvx would be a good middle ground, but I have heard so many different things wrong with them between the years that I don't know what to make of it and would rather avoid the whole thing.

Oh yea, and the planned uses would most of the time be moderately slow trail use (padre cruising behind on the sportsman, lol). But if I go out with friends it would obviously be quicker. There's also a few local tracks that I intend to eventually hit casually. Or even competitively if they make a "slow as hell" class.

jordandakota · 05-03-2012, 07:35 PM

All I can tell ya about the quad thing is I'm goin with a friend to look at an '06 450r tomorrow night.

600RacerX · 05-03-2012, 07:38 PM

How much is he asking?

This one is absolutely mint, never raced, trail ridden by a girl twice a year for $2300

jordandakota · 05-03-2012, 08:07 PM

I think this guy wants $3200. It's in good shape with new tires.

Tonight my brother found an ATC250r for $750 in awesome shape. Guy doesn't know what he has. I REALLY wish I had my quad together to either trade him or sell it quick and buy that.

600RacerX · 05-03-2012, 08:58 PM

I'm now hearing the 04-05's had crank issues. Oh jeez. Everything seems to have problems... I guess I'm searching the internet too much.