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Old 07-21-2007, 05:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Summer thoughts on snow......

Ok well reading the paper yesterday, (yes I do actually read sometimes...) Came across an interesting article. It was talking about a big resort/ski town in the alps closing down, due to the increasing warmmer temps (global warming??). It got me to thinking, with the past couple of years for me sledding, and thinking back, snow falls have dropped. or at least the length of time it sticks...

I know this is always a topic each year, so I thought heck get a little summer thoughts going on it before we spend so much time in nov and dec......
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Old 07-21-2007, 07:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I dont feel like re-typing my opinion, so ill just copy and paste a facebook note i wrote on my opinion on Live Earth and global warming in general.

I think that the Live Earth concert is a bunch of crap for two reasons

Reason one : Global Warming DOES NOT EXIST. The planet has natural climate change. Ice Ages exist so why can't it just be natural that thing might change into a Hot Age so to speak. Exactally, that's what we call logical. There is NO greenhouse effect taking place. Our fumes from our cars are NOT causing the ozone layer to go away eventually causing the planet to eventually melt. There has never been a scientist able to find actual PROOF that global warming exists and I like people to prove what they're talking about. I do believe that polluting the ground and water and air can really mess us up through ingestion of toxins and all that but global warming is a myth.

anything in "quotes" should be reffered to in Reason One

Reason two : The celebrities that showed up to perform at LIVE EARTH are mostly all hypocrites. A majority of them flew to the performance on their private jets burning up fossil fuels and "destroying the ozone." Then the proceded to do the show not because they care about the environment but because people will listen to their songs and possibally go buy an album. Generating more money for the artist (I do love capitalism). Then after the celebs are done performing they fly back home in their private jets and decides to go for a drive in their escalade or hummer, which, guess what? You're right releases more "harmfull gasses." The people that perform at an event about preventing/saving "global warming" are some of the worst role models for what they are preaching about. The damn hypocrites.
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No offense, but I just reloaded....and shot the horse again. There have been about 15 threads on this, and they all end up in arguments. I'm on the side that something needs to be done, but am not extreme about it.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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global warming is caused by 1 of 2 things. 1st is the pumping of crude oil had stopped insulating the core and allowed hit to escape to the surface. all the car's and house's exhaust fumes and heating up the planet. heat is real but cold isnt. cold was made up for people who cant cope with no heat... so cold the absent of heat. just like dark is the absence of light
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Ok Ok....First thing, the mention of global warming in my post was not to either suggest or deny the possibility, only to refer to what the article said...

The goal of the post is not to debate global warming, but to open a thread to discuess recent trends in our areas, our hopes and prayers for furture snow. Stories on bad days/good days etc...

This is ment to me very LIGHT discussion, one that you might have on a friday night, around a table, with 5 of your buddies, eating some great jerky, and laughing at a broken bushing........

so with that said, lets leave the global warming debate to others, and foucus on what we all agree on SNOW! and why we hate the lack of it...
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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we'll get snow dennis...i promise. even if iy means a 20 hour ride north through canada we will get snow. p.s plant a few tree's and reduce your carbon foot print
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Old 07-22-2007, 03:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This is ment to me very LIGHT discussion, one that you might have on a friday night, around a table, with 5 of your buddies, eating some great jerky, and laughing at a broken bushing..
LMAOROFL

gee-wiz..i wonder who's bushing you were referring to?? you know, the jerkey outlet ships UPS
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Old 07-22-2007, 03:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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heat is real but cold isnt. cold was made up for people who cant cope with no heat... so cold the absent of heat. just like dark is the absence of light
ok...i'm not following how cold was "created" for people who cant cope with no heat.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
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let it snow,let it snow..real deep
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
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[quote=PolarisINDY500]ok...i'm not following how cold was "created" for people who cant cope with no heat.[/QUOTE

hmmm hey buddy, how was your night? wasn't no heat...um it was absence of heat....so they made up cold. so now guys can answer sure was cold
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i dont understand what you mean by "they" and how do you make up cold?
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Look, this is turning out to be a stupid thread. Den, get a sled and come back on the RIDE! Who the heck cares about hot and cold. I went to Florida, OK it's hot. Come this riding season it will be cold. So let's fricken RIDE!
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Look, this is turning out to be a stupid thread. Den, get a sled and come back on the RIDE! Who the heck cares about hot and cold. I went to Florida, OK it's hot. Come this riding season it will be cold. So let's fricken RIDE!
i can turn the smartest threads stupid...

cold is the absence of heat... the only reason cold is a word is because people couldn't grasp the concept of its no heat out today...lmao...how is that for dumbing up a thread
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i wasnt trying to dumb up a thread...just trying to get a GOOD explanation of what someone was saying. but that didnt happen.

ive taken physics, but never thermodynamics...sorry if im behind the 8 ball.
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:30 AM   #15 (permalink)
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i wasnt trying to dumb up a thread...just trying to get a GOOD explanation of what someone was saying. but that didnt happen.

ive taken physics, but never thermodynamics...sorry if im behind the 8 ball.
i saw it on the discovery channel and thats how they explained it.

hot

ADJECTIVE:
hotˇter , hotˇtest

1.
1. Having or giving off heat; capable of burning.
2. Being at a high temperature.
2. Being at or exhibiting a temperature that is higher than normal or desirable: a hot forehead.
3. Causing a burning sensation, as in the mouth; spicy: hot peppers; a hot curry.
4.
1. Charged or energized with electricity: a hot wire.
2. Radioactive, especially to a dangerous degree.
5.
1. Marked by intensity of emotion; ardent or fiery: a hot temper.
2. Having or displaying great enthusiasm; eager: hot for travel.
6.
1. Informal Arousing intense interest, excitement, or controversy: a hot new book; a hot topic.
2. Informal Marked by excited activity or energy: a hot week on the stock market.
3. Violent; raging: a hot battle.
7. Slang Sexually excited or exciting.
8. Slang
1. Recently stolen: a hot car.
2. Wanted by the police: a hot suspect.
9. Close to a successful solution or conclusion: hot on the trail.
10. Informal
1. Most recent; new or fresh: a hot news item; the hot fashions for fall.
2. Currently very popular or successful: one of the hottest young talents around.
3. Requiring immediate action or attention: a hot opportunity.
11. Slang Very good or impressive. Often used in the negative: I'm not so hot at math.
12. Slang Funny or absurd: told a hot one about the neighbors' dog.
13. Slang
1. Performing with great skill and daring: a hot drummer.
2. Having or characterized by repeated successes: a player who is on a hot streak.
3. Fast and responsive: a hot sports car.
4. Unusually lucky: hot at craps.
14. Music Of, relating to, or being an emotionally charged style of performance marked by strong rhythms and improvisation: hot jazz.
15. Bold and bright.

NOUN:
hots (hts) KEY

Slang Strong sexual attraction or desire. Used with the.

ADVERB:

1. In a hot manner; hotly.
2. While hot: foods that are best eaten hot.

TRANSITIVE VERB:
hotˇted , hotˇting , hots

Informal To cause to increase in intensity or excitement. Often used with up: "His book is an exercise in the fashionable art of instant history, in which every episode is hotted up with an anecdote" (Harper's).


IDIOMS:
hot and bothered Informal

In a state of agitated excitement; flustered: all hot and bothered before the opening performance.

hot and heavy

1. Informal Passionate or intense: Interest in the new stock was hot and heavy.
2. Characterized by or engaging in amorous or sexual activity.

hot to trot Slang

1. Sexually avid; lascivious.
2. Ready and willing; eager.

hot under the collar Informal

Angry.

make it hot for Slang

To make things uncomfortable or dangerous for: Don't make it hot for yourself by needlessly finding fault.

ETYMOLOGY:
Middle English, from Old English ht; see kai- in Indo-European roots

heat audio (ht) KEY

NOUN:
Physics

1.
1. A form of energy associated with the motion of atoms or molecules and capable of being transmitted through solid and fluid media by conduction, through fluid media by convection, and through empty space by radiation.
2. The transfer of energy from one body to another as a result of a difference in temperature or a change in phase.
2. The sensation or perception of such energy as warmth or hotness.
3. An abnormally high bodily temperature, as from a fever.
4.
1. The condition of being hot.
2. A degree of warmth or hotness: The burner was on low heat.
5.
1. The warming of a room or building by a furnace or another source of energy: The house was cheap to rent, but the heat was expensive.
2. A furnace or other source of warmth in a room or building: The heat was on when we returned from work.
6. A hot season; a spell of hot weather.
7.
1. Intensity, as of passion, emotion, color, appearance, or effect.
2. The most intense or active stage: the heat of battle.
3. A burning sensation in the mouth produced by spicy flavoring in food.
8. Estrus.
9. One of a series of efforts or attempts.
10.
1. Sports & Games One round of several in a competition, such as a race.
2. A preliminary contest held to determine finalists.
11. Informal Pressure; stress.
12. Slang
1. An intensification of police activity in pursuing criminals.
2. The police. Used with the.
13. Slang Adverse comments or hostile criticism: Heat from the press forced the senator to resign.
14. Slang A firearm, especially a pistol.

VERB:
heatˇed , heatˇing , heats
VERB:
tr.

1. To make warm or hot.
2. To excite the feelings of; inflame.
3. To increase the molecular or kinetic energy of (an object).

VERB:
intr.

1. To become warm or hot.
2. To become excited emotionally or intellectually.


PHRASAL VERB:
heat up Informal

To become acute or intense: "If inflation heats up, interest rates could increase" (Christian Science Monitor).

ETYMOLOGY:
Middle English hete, from Old English htu; see kai- in Indo-European roots

cold audio (kld) KEY

ADJECTIVE:
coldˇer , coldˇest

1.
1. Having a low temperature.
2. Having a temperature lower than normal body temperature.
3. Feeling no warmth; uncomfortably chilled.
2.
1. Marked by deficient heat: a cold room.
2. Being at a temperature that is less than what is required: cold oatmeal.
3. Chilled by refrigeration or ice: cold beer.
3. Lacking emotion; objective: cold logic.
4. Having no appeal to the senses or feelings: a cold decor.
5.
1. Not affectionate or friendly; aloof: a cold person; a cold nod.
2. Exhibiting or feeling no enthusiasm: a cold audience; a cold response to the new play; a concert that left me cold.
3. Devoid of sexual desire; frigid.
6. Designating a tone or color, such as pale gray, that suggests little warmth.
7. Having lost all freshness or vividness through passage of time: dogs attempting to catch a cold scent.
8.
1. Marked by or sustaining a loss of body heat: cold hands and feet.
2. Appearing to be dead; unconscious.
3. Dead: was cold in his grave.
9. Marked by unqualified certainty or sure familiarity.
10. So intense as to be almost uncontrollable: cold fury.
11. Characterized by repeated failure, especially in a sport or competitive activity: The team fell into a slump of cold shooting.

ADVERB:

1. To an unqualified degree; totally: was cold sober.
2. With complete finality: We turned him down cold.
3. Without advance preparation or introduction: took the exam cold and passed; walked in cold and got the new job.

NOUN:

1.
1. Relative lack of warmth.
2. The sensation resulting from lack of warmth; chill.
2. A condition of low air temperature; cold weather: went out into the cold and got a chill.
3. A viral infection characterized by inflammation of the mucous membranes lining the upper respiratory passages and usually accompanied by malaise, fever, chills, coughing, and sneezing. Also called common cold , coryza .


IDIOM:
out in the cold

Lacking benefits given to others; neglected.

ETYMOLOGY:
Middle English, from Old English ceald; see gel- in Indo-European roots

OTHER FORMS:
coldly (Adverb), coldness (Noun)

SYNONYMS:
cold , arctic , chilly , cool , frigid , frosty , gelid , glacial , icy

These adjectives mean marked by a low or an extremely low temperature: cold air; an arctic climate; a chilly day; cool water; a frigid room; a frosty morning; gelid seas; glacial winds; icy hands.
Antonym: hot
Thesaurus: synonyms for cold


so the conclusion is hot is heat and no heat is cold
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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wow....thought i was back in school there for a min.and thats been almost 20 years.
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wow....thought i was back in school there for a min.and thats been almost 20 years.

well he wanted a GOOD explanation...lol
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:38 AM   #19 (permalink)
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well, thats more of a websters definition. i was looking for something more "scientific", such as:

albert einstein:
"... cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Everybody and every object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (- 460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have too little heat...."

in addition...

The Third Law of Thermodynamics refers to a state known as "absolute zero." This is the bottom point on the Kelvin temperature scale. The Kelvin scale is absolute, meaning 0° Kelvin is mathematically the lowest possible temperature in the universe. This corresponds to about -273.15° Celsius, or -45