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**RJ Gleason** · 09-05-2006, 12:52 PM

Here is an article that gives very good reasons against loud pipes and why they should not be allowed.

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BskidooC · 09-05-2006, 05:55 PM

I think loud pipes save lives
posting this is just gonna start a fight like these topics always do
cheers

BRPforlife · 09-05-2006, 06:59 PM

I agree this is probably just going to start a cat fight. Whether or not you like the sound (which I actually do). THEY ARE ILLEGAL ON TRAILS! Don't ride trails with them. It is against the LAW. ENOUGH SAID. If you're not riding trails than all the power to you. I want to shoot half the people I meet but I don't because it's ILLEGAL!!!! AGAINST THE LAW!!!!! If you can't understand that than you have bigger problems.

SnowRida · 09-05-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BRPforlife

I want to shoot half the people I meet but I don't because it's ILLEGAL!!!! .

You've got to be kidding, right?

I_R_Josh · 09-05-2006, 07:12 PM

Can we just have a monthly scheduled pipe argument?? Lets remember that guns don't kill people...people kill people. And pipes don't ruin it for everyone, irresponsible A-holes ruin it for everyone.

BRPforlife · 09-05-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowRida

You've got to be kidding, right?

HAHA yeah I'm just kidding..............

It's more like two thirds

Good point Irjosh!

IndianRvrShiver · 09-05-2006, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BskidooC

I think loud pipes save lives......

Not sure how this phrase (originally coined by M/C'er's) made the walk to snowmobiles??

I can somewhat understand a motorcyclist in heavy traffic may want to be loud so the idiots on the road know he's around!!

But, how does that apply to sleds, which don't run in heavy traffic??

BRPforlife · 09-05-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianRvrShiver

Not sure how this phrase (originally coined by M/C'er's) made the walk to snowmobiles??

I can somewhat understand a motorcyclist in heavy traffic may want to be loud so the idiots on the road know he's around!!

But, how does that apply to sleds, which don't run in heavy traffic??

I believe the theory is that people on the trail can hear it coming. I know around here that a lot of recreational walking trails are part of our snowmobile trail systems in the winter. May give them more time to get out of the way and possibly avoid being hit (Although the snowmobile rider should be under control and obeying the speed limit at all times and should be able to safely react to any obstruction on the trail

). As for other riders hearing them. With a helmet on and the noise of your own machine you're not going to hear squat!

rgoers · 09-05-2006, 09:43 PM

Some like 'em loud. Have fun, but please don't ruin the sport for others. I know some places allow pipes, and others don't (NY for one). If you want it loud, make sure you're riding where it's okay to have it loud.

Personally, I think you'd do more towards saving lives by sticking a few hundred of those little deer whistles on your sled instead.

Besides; I still can't figure out why you'd want to give hikers or x-country skiers advanced warning. Aren't they worth a lot of points each time you hit one???

I_R_Josh · 09-05-2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rgoers

Besides; I still can't figure out why you'd want to give hikers or x-country skiers advanced warning. Aren't they worth a lot of points each time you hit one???

**smallengineguy** · 09-05-2006, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianRvrShiver

Not sure how this phrase (originally coined by M/C'er's) made the walk to snowmobiles??

I can somewhat understand a motorcyclist in heavy traffic may want to be loud so the idiots on the road know he's around!!

But, how does that apply to sleds, which don't run in heavy traffic??

Good point IRS. M/C's aren't traveling on someone's private property on a trail system like sleds are.

PolarisINDY500 · 09-05-2006, 11:29 PM

personally, i like pipes. i like the sound.

i think that if this is becomming a big issue, they need to devise a way to satisfy both parties.

i think that pipe manuf. shoud make pipes for different applications, and give ratings on different sounds, however, still maintain the performance ppl are after. for example, flowmaster, borla, and mangnaflow all offer exhaust systems that deliver different end products to suit different needs. and in doing so provide mufflers that sound loud, medium, or "quiet".

right now you either drive a "quiet" sled, or you have one w/ pipes. there is no inbetween.

when it comes to hearing other sleds, pipes do give advanced warning. one example...i know for a fact that when another sledder wants to pass (who is behind you), all he does is burp the throttle and you hear the sled. then you say oh sh!t he wants to pass, and you move over.

**RJ Gleason** · 09-05-2006, 11:46 PM

Let's not forget to read the whole article and see that there is also personal hearing loss involved with loud noises of any kind.

PolarisINDY500 · 09-05-2006, 11:49 PM

RJ i did read the whole article...and yes, im aware of loud noises...ever heard of OSHA.

**RJ Gleason** · 09-05-2006, 11:52 PM

Sure, but some don't read everything and some not at all, then just weigh in uninformed.

Remember that ringing in your ears is an early sign of hearing loss.

PolarisINDY500 · 09-06-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ Gleason

Sure, but some don't read everything and some not at all, then just weigh in uninformed.

true dat! good call.

IndianRvrShiver · 09-06-2006, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BRPforlife

I believe the theory is that people on the trail can hear it coming. I know around here that a lot of recreational walking trails are part of our snowmobile trail systems in the winter. May give them more time to get out of the way and possibly avoid being hit (Although the snowmobile rider should be under control and obeying the speed limit at all times and should be able to safely react to any obstruction on the trail

). As for other riders hearing them. With a helmet on and the noise of your own machine you're not going to hear squat!

Geez!! You just poked a whole bunch of holes in that theory!

IndianRvrShiver · 09-06-2006, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by smallengineguy

Good point IRS. M/C's aren't traveling on someone's private property on a trail system like sleds are.

Oops!

Did I forget to mention that?

IndianRvrShiver · 09-06-2006, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ Gleason

Let's not forget to read the whole article and see that there is also personal hearing loss involved with loud noises of any kind.

Huh? What? Just kidding, RJ!

Valid point.....I raced karts for nearly 16 years using un-muffled pipes that exit near your ears......not sure if I had had any damage/loss from that or if it was all the loud head-bangin' music??