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12-30-2012, 06:30 PM
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99 Ski-doo mxz 600 running/flooding problems....
Ok, so i have searched a bit and haven't found anything on my problem, maybe i missed it. Anyways here is my problem... I have as stated a 99 Skidoo Mxz 600, it had been running great, then after warm it runs like it's a one cyl. And soaks the #2 plug. Cleaned carbs, new fuel pump lines filter, fuel, cleaned tank. Ran great again, then warm, bogs like it's down a cyl. Soaked plug still. Swapped carbs locations for poops and hahas and i have it down to a carb. But, no matter how i adjust, it keeps flooding it out. Suggestions? Needles are both on center clips, carbs are spotless. Floats are appearing to float well... Any help at thus point is a help... I'm at a loss... Then the other night the "good" carb flooded and hydro locked my engine... So lost...
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12-30-2012, 06:45 PM
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Sounds like jetting issue make sure they are the recommended for your altitude and air temp
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12-30-2012, 06:50 PM
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[QUOTE=DitchPklCowboy;529391]Sounds like jetting issue make sure they are the recommended for your altitude and air temp.
Where might i find a table or the sort, that may tell me recommended jets/needles...? Thanks for the thought, sled tuning is new to me
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12-30-2012, 07:51 PM
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Google it for year make model and make sure the carbs are the ones listed!
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12-30-2012, 07:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DitchPklCowboy
Google it for year make model and make sure the carbs are the ones listed!
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Done exactly that, no luck at all... Everything but the 99-01 600 engines. It's such a pain... Ski doo doesn't have an easy table for use for dummies like myself. Cars, sure no problem. This sled has been nothing but trouble since day one
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12-30-2012, 08:47 PM
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Okay google mikuni carb manual and download a free one try to match assuming you have mikunis
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12-30-2012, 08:49 PM
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I had a 96 formula three that was a joy
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12-30-2012, 08:50 PM
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Indeed, they are the mikuni carbs, I'll see what i can find, if i manage some results i will be sure to post them
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12-30-2012, 09:36 PM
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I think the 600 in 99 had dpm that is supposed to adjust float bowl pressure making jetting universal for all temperatures and elevations. Could be an issue with that
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12-30-2012, 09:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WWTSE670
I think the 600 in 99 had dpm that is supposed to adjust float bowl pressure making jetting universal for all temperatures and elevations. Could be an issue with that
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could you possibly in like me on what this DPM that you speak of is?
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12-31-2012, 06:23 AM
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Did the machine run well before this issue? If so, it's not a jetting issue (jetting doesn't change itself!). Either your choke plunger isn't seating all the way or your inlet needle/seat is in need of replacement.
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12-31-2012, 09:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smallengineguy
Did the machine run well before this issue? If so, it's not a jetting issue (jetting doesn't change itself!). Either your choke plunger isn't seating all the way or your inlet needle/seat is in need of replacement.
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It did not, though both carbs are now completely torn down. And found 280 Mains and 35 pilots. Which the dealer i called told me is OE. But refused to give me a jetting assistance, but they are happy to help otherwise at 59.99 an hour.  yep, I'll get right on that...
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12-31-2012, 09:59 AM
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Did you clean the jets? If you scratch or mar them in the jet it can change fuel delivery
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01-01-2013, 07:46 AM
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That is the correct jetting. Are your chokes leaking by?
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01-01-2013, 09:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smallengineguy
That is the correct jetting. Are your chokes leaking by?
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This is my vote at this point, so i cleaned the carbs again, doubled checked the choke, and I'm not sure exactly what these choke needles are supposed to look like
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01-01-2013, 09:43 AM
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also a quick question on setting float level... when setting the float level on the round slide Mikuni I'm trying to set the float height as measured from where to where?
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01-01-2013, 04:45 PM
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With the carb upside down, the arms should be parallel with the bowl flange.
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01-01-2013, 06:02 PM
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There should be 1/8" of slack in the choke cable before it starts to lift the plungers.
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01-02-2013, 01:01 AM
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Thanks everyone for your help and input. Final result is new jets and needles, found floats way too high, choke needles replaced and adjusted to specs. Problem solved.
99' Ski-Doo MXZ 600
Mains @ 280
Pilots @ 40
Keene NH
20*F and under.
1.5 turns out on both adjuster screws. Plugs coming out cardboard brown, and finally happy with her.
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