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10-28-2012, 02:34 PM
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Phazer 2 not going forward?
So the Phazer 2 i got wont go forward (or any where for that matter), after a little investigating i think the drive belt isn't in-gauging correctly. I will admit i don't know much of anything about snowmobiles. Me and my cousin did get it to go but i had it pinned at full throttle and when it went it jerked hard and just took off, and it's spewing a lot of white smoke. Also i had to get part of the carburetor rebuilt.
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10-28-2012, 02:54 PM
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Sound like you ashley cleaned carbs then. What rpm did the clutch engage when it did go? Sound like dirty clutch to me.
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10-28-2012, 02:56 PM
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Is that fan or L/C? Did you try to run it with the track off the ground so you can watch the clutch and belt? Does it bog or anything of that nature?
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10-28-2012, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by aduck
Sound like you ashley cleaned carbs then. What rpm did the clutch engage when it did go? Sound like dirty clutch to me.
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dont know, i never looked... actually i don't even know if the gauges work. I'll have to take another look later.
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10-28-2012, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ridegreen
Is that fan or L/C? Did you try to run it with the track off the ground so you can watch the clutch and belt? Does it bog or anything of that nature?
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It's fan cooled, no only on the ground but i did watch the belt and clutch while on the throttle and it looked like it wanted to engage but couldn't engage all the way. Nope sounds like it's running fine no bogging down, if anything it's idling kinda high.
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10-28-2012, 03:23 PM
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By any chance did the guy that you got it from give you a run down on any problems that he might a had with it? Or just kinda threw it on to you.
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10-28-2012, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ridegreen
By any chance did the guy that you got it from give you a run down on any problems that he might a had with it? Or just kinda threw it on to you.
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nope the guy i got it from bought it from some guy who didnt tell him anything. But in other news i lifted it off the ground and the track went dont know what RPM tho cause the gauges dont work.
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10-28-2012, 03:39 PM
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Does it seem to rev up though? Can you watch the clutch and see how smooth everything is working?
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10-28-2012, 03:43 PM
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Is there a spare belt that you can throw on? Maybe a worn belt and or dirty clutch
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10-28-2012, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1on3off
Does it seem to rev up though? Can you watch the clutch and see how smooth everything is working?
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Yep it revs up, it seems to be working smoothly.
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Is there a spare belt that you can throw on? Maybe a worn belt and or dirty clutch
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No spare belt, but the belt looks like it's in good condition except it looks a little shiny like it got too hot. Can i just clean the belt/clutch?
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10-28-2012, 04:12 PM
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I would take the clutch apart and clean it. Just 6 bolts on the cover and you can clean everything. Make sure the rollers roll freely and weights are also free. Clean it real good with some brake wash and some scotchbrite.
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10-28-2012, 04:45 PM
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Don't spray any lube on the clutch other then air and a graphite lube if you so wish to use it, and I would change the belt out with a new one
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10-28-2012, 04:49 PM
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Don't spray any lube on the clutch other then air and a graphite lube if you so wish to use it, and I would change the belt out with a new one
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lets say some WD-40 and than brake cleaner made it's way on the clutch... When i got it my cousin sprayed WD-40 on it and i tried cleaning it with brake cleaner, lol how bad is that?
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10-28-2012, 04:56 PM
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Well the reason for nothing such as that is cuz It's like a magnet for dirt and grime build up.
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10-28-2012, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cody
lets say some WD-40 and than brake cleaner made it's way on the clutch... When i got it my cousin sprayed WD-40 on it and i tried cleaning it with brake cleaner, lol how bad is that?
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You can use brake clean or brake wash with no problems. WD-40 isn't good. Wash it all off with the brake wash.
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10-28-2012, 05:57 PM
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i took the belt off and cleaned it, cleaned the clutch with brake cleaner and it still doesnt work. It seems to be working smoother when the track is in the air bt when i put it on the ground it doesn't work. I dont have time tonight to pull apart the clutch and really give it a good cleaning tho.
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10-28-2012, 06:19 PM
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Check and see if one of the plugs is cold/wet.
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10-28-2012, 06:35 PM
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NO brake clean! No Lube! Just scotch bright and an air hose!
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10-28-2012, 07:30 PM
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Where in MN? I'll have time this coming weekend
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10-28-2012, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
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NO brake clean! No Lube! Just scotch bright and an air hose!
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I know no lube but why no brake cleaner? is this something that argued a lot because i heard multiple places its fine and multiple places its not
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Where in MN? I'll have time this coming weekend
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Sorry but i have no idea who you are..... so no.
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