http://www.snowmobileforum.com
Go Back   Snowmobile Forum: Your #1 Snowmobile Forum > Specific Snowmobile Forums > Arctic Cat Snowmobiles

Please Visit our Site Sponsors


» Sponsors
» Our Partners
» Sponsors
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-27-2005, 11:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
luski09
Registered User
 
luski09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NH
Posts: 51
Arctic cat 600 faster than 580?

WHAT do you think

Arctic cat ZR600 aircooled efi is faster? or slower
than an Arctic Cat Pantera 580 Fuel injected and Liquid Cooled?

i cant even race them cuz THERES NO SNOW YET

=luca

sorry i though it was carb it is efi
__________________
1977 arctic cat pantera
1996 arctic cat pantera 580 efi
1971 ski-doo tnt 292

Last edited by luski09 : 08-27-2005 at 07:10 PM.
luski09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 08-27-2005, 12:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
skidoorider
Registered User
 
skidoorider's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Campton/Milan NH
Posts: 732
zr would be faster because the pantera is a made for 2 people and its geard lower. and the zr is made for speed.

but if you really want to no, you and chris can race this winter.
skidoorider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2005, 05:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
bradford
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: iowa
Posts: 65
who has a zr600 air cooled? must be rare
__________________
fast as fast can be!!!
bradford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2005, 06:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
IndianRvrShiver
King of the Universe
 
IndianRvrShiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Rochester Hizzle, MI
Posts: 6,213
Quote:
Originally posted by bradford
who has a zr600 air cooled? must be rare
That's what I was thinkin'....
__________________
********************
2003 AC F5 (Jr's Dec 07 SOTM & 2008 SOTY)
2003 AC F7 EFI SP (April 06 SOTM)
********************
IndianRvrShiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2005, 06:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
luski09
Registered User
 
luski09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NH
Posts: 51
ya its a arctic cat zr600 my friend says its fan cooled
but it certainly isnt liquid
but it is the "limited edition"
maybe that is why
__________________
1977 arctic cat pantera
1996 arctic cat pantera 580 efi
1971 ski-doo tnt 292
luski09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2005, 07:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
SledStormIanAmy
Water Runner
 
SledStormIanAmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 52
Are you sure that ZR is a 440 fan cooled bored to a 600? I know Arctic Cat never made a 600 Fan- or Air-cooled engine. Even doing a 440 to a 600 is a pain and I doubt it can be done. And a Fan-cool will certainly not have a EFI system at all.
__________________
!997 Polaris Storm 800
3" Riser
Handlebar Hooks
1.5" Lug Track
SledStormIanAmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2005, 08:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
YamahaVector
Registered User
 
YamahaVector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: CNY
Posts: 570
Quote:
Originally posted by luski09
ya its a arctic cat zr600 my friend says its fan cooled
but it certainly isnt liquid
but it is the "limited edition"
maybe that is why

Your friend is a moron!
__________________
Loud Pipes Lose Trails!!!

If you're not in a club you are part of the problem!!!
YamahaVector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2005, 08:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
skidoorider
Registered User
 
skidoorider's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Campton/Milan NH
Posts: 732
Quote:
Originally posted by YamahaVector
Your friend is a moron!
thanks for calling me a moron. see here's the story. i thought it was liquid cooled but luski09 said that he checked it over and didn't find a radiator. so he thought it was air cooled. and i said that there is no way it could be air cooled so i said maybe its fan cooled.
skidoorider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2005, 11:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
03700xckid16
Registered User
 
03700xckid16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: dracut massachusettes
Posts: 633
the radiator is under the sled pretty much, its in the tonell, so when ur driving snow from the track kicks up and hits the radiator and cools it....wow....
03700xckid16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2005, 11:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
skidoorider
Registered User
 
skidoorider's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Campton/Milan NH
Posts: 732
thats prob y he couldn't find it
skidoorider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2005, 05:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
Snow Freak
Braaaaaaaaap
 
Snow Freak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maine
Posts: 3,290
Yeah it is deffinately a liquid cooled zr600 and the zr will win. There arent radiators that you two were probably looking for, they are called heat exchangers, they run along the running boards or underneath the tunnel.
__________________
2008 Cat 600 mod

2005 F7 SnoPro Team Edition! D&D Monster Single Pipe, BMP Valve Spacers, ODS Clutch Kit, Shaved Secondary (by ODS), 153 StudBoys, 8'' riser, Fly Bars/Hooks, Flyscreen, Acerbis Handguards, Black Lens Covers--FOR SALE

2005 Renegade 600 H.O.-Dads

2001 YZF426- street legal supermoto

Last edited by Snow Freak : 08-28-2005 at 08:16 PM.
Snow Freak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2005, 06:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
03700xckid16
Registered User
 
03700xckid16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: dracut massachusettes
Posts: 633
Quote:
Originally posted by Snow Freak
Yeah it is deffinately a liquid cooled zr600 and the zr will win. There isnt any radiators, they are called heat exchangers, that run along the running boards or underneath the tunnel.
that is a radiator lol...thats all a radiator does is EXCHANCES HEAT
03700xckid16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2005, 08:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
Snow Freak
Braaaaaaaaap
 
Snow Freak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maine
Posts: 3,290
Quote:
Originally posted by 03700xckid16
that is a radiator lol...thats all a radiator does is EXCHANCES HEAT
yeah i know but its not the type of raditaor that those kids were probably looking for.
__________________
2008 Cat 600 mod

2005 F7 SnoPro Team Edition! D&D Monster Single Pipe, BMP Valve Spacers, ODS Clutch Kit, Shaved Secondary (by ODS), 153 StudBoys, 8'' riser, Fly Bars/Hooks, Flyscreen, Acerbis Handguards, Black Lens Covers--FOR SALE

2005 Renegade 600 H.O.-Dads

2001 YZF426- street legal supermoto
Snow Freak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2005, 08:33 PM   #14 (permalink)
luski09
Registered User
 
luski09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NH
Posts: 51
thanks

ya after i posted that i looked on line and found those heat exchangers that go under the sled.
i had not see those before *mostly because i deal with older speds that are mostly air cooled*
thanks all for clearing up the misconceptions!

-luca
__________________
1977 arctic cat pantera
1996 arctic cat pantera 580 efi
1971 ski-doo tnt 292
luski09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2005, 08:35 PM   #15 (permalink)
luski09
Registered User
 
luski09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NH
Posts: 51
oh ya and what is the difference between the ltd edition and regular zr600?
__________________
1977 arctic cat pantera
1996 arctic cat pantera 580 efi
1971 ski-doo tnt 292
luski09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2005, 08:28 AM   #16 (permalink)
YamahaVector
Registered User
 
YamahaVector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: CNY
Posts: 570
The Ltd has stiffer suspension with the piggyback resevoirs on the shocks and the dial on the handlebars.
__________________
Loud Pipes Lose Trails!!!

If you're not in a club you are part of the problem!!!
YamahaVector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2005, 12:08 AM   #17 (permalink)
letitsnow
I am the Walrus
 
letitsnow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Western NY
Posts: 1,489
an old kawasaki invader 440 would have both radiatiors and heat exchangers.
__________________
My Pics
1999 Arctic Cat ZL 440
1994 SkiDoo Mach 1 583
1995 Honda CR 125R
1982 Camaro w/ 355
letitsnow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2005, 10:00 PM   #18 (permalink)
catman_580
Registered User
 
catman_580's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: cushing iowa
Posts: 41
the Zr would beat the 580 with out a problem, zr is more of a getty up sled rather than a trail sled like ure 580 is
catman_580 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2005, 10:48 PM   #19 (permalink)
allen768
Stock 98 ZL 500... 105mph
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Atikokan, Ontario
Posts: 8
First of all, Arctic cat does not or has never made a 600 fan. (at least not in the last 10 years or so) So if the ZR is a liquid it will smoke the 580 out of the hole and all the way through to top end. Especially if the 580 is a pantera because they are trail machines. Finally, If you want to know if the Zr is a liquid and u cant find the heat exchanger, the easiest thing is to look under the hood and see if they sled has a reservoir for cooling fluid.
allen768 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2005, 03:21 AM   #20 (permalink)
edgelaf
2004 F7 EFI Sno-Pro
 
edgelaf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Kindersley, Saskatchewan,
Posts: 56
who cares both slow sleds lol
__________________
  • 2004 Firecat F7 EFI Sno Pro
  • 1998 Yamaha Big Bear 350
  • 2006 Ford F-350 XLT Lariat Crew Cab 6 Inch Lift, 37 Inch Toyo MT's, and many cosmetic upgrades and Roush Intake and Exhaust
  • 1989 Ford Bronco XLT

edgelaf is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0 RC2
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8
Copyright SnowmobileForum.com