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01-16-2013, 06:31 AM
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ordered a pressure test kit online, will post results when it arrives next week prob.
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01-16-2013, 07:32 AM
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Presure test or Compression test?
A presure test would be block off plates and be to test the seals of the motor!
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01-16-2013, 09:37 AM
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#23 (permalink)
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Sorry, compression test, to test each cylinder. Also I got the sled started on 2nd pull, so whatever was causing the high idle I must have resolved.
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01-16-2013, 09:41 AM
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Off subject but where's a common place to take shocks for rebuild, and cost/durability compaired to replacing new for around $100
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01-16-2013, 11:43 AM
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Rebuilding usually costs close to new unless you find a good deal on someone who does it. Not usually worth rebuilding unless they are high end shocks. Opinion
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01-16-2013, 01:19 PM
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#26 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joshkidner
Rebuilding usually costs close to new unless you find a good deal on someone who does it. Not usually worth rebuilding unless they are high end shocks. Opinion
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Standard fox rebuilds are $30... A cheap non-OEM is going to be over $100.
JBShocks snowmobile shock rebuilding
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1) 2000 Arctic cat ZR 700, which now thinks it is a 2001 ZR 600 EFI APV w/136" ripsaw. (for sale!)
2) 1995 Yamaha VMAX 600, which now thinks it is a Polaris! (Polaris x10 suspension, Polaris P85 clutch) (for sale!)
3) 2004 Yamaha Warrior
4) 2006 Yamaha Nytro
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01-18-2013, 04:59 PM
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#27 (permalink)
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ok, you guys called it, ive got 87 psi and 90 psi...
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01-18-2013, 06:04 PM
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#28 (permalink)
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top end kits
I can get spi piston/top end kit for $200, wiseco for $223, or oem $255, who's got opinions?
also... is it a good idea to do anything else, like crank shaft oil seal ect, that's easy to do when doing a top end
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01-18-2013, 06:38 PM
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Re: 98 arctic cat zr600 efi starting/running issues
It would b a great idea to put new seals in if you got it tore down. I have two 98 zr 600 one with 8000+ miles with no rebuild and the other with 6000+ wih one if your in there do it all
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01-18-2013, 10:35 PM
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#30 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djhammy
I can get spi piston/top end kit for $200, wiseco for $223, or oem $255, who's got opinions?
also... is it a good idea to do anything else, like crank shaft oil seal ect, that's easy to do when doing a top end
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I'd go wiseco, and always give the sled a proper warmup...
If you do anything past the top end, you have to pull the motor and split the case. Not a bad idea, but also 10x more work. Just doing the top end is a 2 hour job at most.
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1) 2000 Arctic cat ZR 700, which now thinks it is a 2001 ZR 600 EFI APV w/136" ripsaw. (for sale!)
2) 1995 Yamaha VMAX 600, which now thinks it is a Polaris! (Polaris x10 suspension, Polaris P85 clutch) (for sale!)
3) 2004 Yamaha Warrior
4) 2006 Yamaha Nytro
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01-19-2013, 05:55 AM
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Actually, I would recommend the SPI kit over Weisco due to the fact that they are a cast rather than forged and will be more forgiving to the person who may occasionally forget to provide sufficient warm up time,
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1980 AC Pantera (donor engine to the 90 wildcat)
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01-22-2013, 02:15 PM
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#32 (permalink)
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update
hey guys, I pulled the cylinders out, and if recall from testing I posted before they were 84psi and 90 psi and ive got to say everything looks really good yet, sleeves and pistons look great surprisingly, should I just get replacement gaskets and piston rings and call it done?
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01-22-2013, 02:20 PM
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As long as the pistons do not show signs of skirt damage/wear, use them again.
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Old Cat Rider
'93 Wildcat 700EFI
w/ Comet 108 Pro-4 clutch & 01 ZR skid
'90 Wildcat Project in progress.
Vintage (sorta)
1980 Indy Trail 440 (for sale)
1980 AC Pantera (donor engine to the 90 wildcat)
http://www.dcdrifters.net/
Senior Warden; F&AM Dryden Lodge# 472
http://www.masonicdryden472.org/
Rules of this forum are strictly enforced!
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01-22-2013, 02:51 PM
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yea they look pretty good, nice and smooth. can the rings alone be that much of a problem to where I was only getting 84 and 90 psi? or combined with gaskets possibly leaking
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01-22-2013, 02:55 PM
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and what kind of lube/grease should I use on the pistons
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01-22-2013, 04:02 PM
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Just use some of the same oil that you put in the oil tank.
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Old Cat Rider
'93 Wildcat 700EFI
w/ Comet 108 Pro-4 clutch & 01 ZR skid
'90 Wildcat Project in progress.
Vintage (sorta)
1980 Indy Trail 440 (for sale)
1980 AC Pantera (donor engine to the 90 wildcat)
http://www.dcdrifters.net/
Senior Warden; F&AM Dryden Lodge# 472
http://www.masonicdryden472.org/
Rules of this forum are strictly enforced!
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01-22-2013, 04:15 PM
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personally I would run a deglazing hone on the cylinders before you put it back together. this will help the rings to seat better.
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01-22-2013, 04:31 PM
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#38 (permalink)
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Re: 98 arctic cat zr600 efi starting/running issues
Dump a bit of oil down into the cyls. And pull it over until it is covering the whole wall.
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01-22-2013, 04:59 PM
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#39 (permalink)
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What's a deglazing hone? Is that a job for a machine shop?
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01-22-2013, 09:17 PM
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#40 (permalink)
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ok, I understand what it is now, and I can just use my cordless drill which is 1400 rpm, now should I be using a 3 in hone brush or a bit bigger for the factory 78mm bore?
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