Hudson

Might remember my thread from before. Anyways, i got the recoil fixed, got some snow today (like 6 inches in CT) and i was riding the sled around.

Rode it around for about 20-30 minutes, and the recoil rope broke again. When it broke, it caused the sled to stall which didn't seem normal to me. Why would it stall after that? I'd assume it'd keep running until i killed the engine, but i guess not.

Anyways, i think there is something the rope is rubbing on or it's burning through, as this is the second time it's broke and i've yet to ride the thing for more than an hour total.

Are there supposed to be any plates or anything to stop this from happening?

I measured the rope and it looks to be about 3/16"-1/4" (it's actually probably 7/32"). Where would i go about buying this? Is there a higher strength rope i could use?

This is starting to get annoying.

Pictures are of broken rope. It broke in about the same time last time which is why i think it's rubbing.

mikemalibu

I would look for any rough edges that it could rub on. And also to see where that broken end would be when it was sitting in the sled. Check your guides and the routing of the cord. You can get a new cord in just about any hardwear store. While you have the recoil apart check for broken or missing pieces. I usually lub mine lightly with a synthetic grease thined out a bit with wd40.

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mikemalibu

Cable lube works well too!

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kccats

You really need a pull cord rope! Find a small engine shop and for about $5-10 you can get about 6'. The problem is WHY did it kill the motor?

93Wildcat700

Right that rope doesn't look very beefy. So it died while you were driving it?

Or you went to re start it and when you pulled it over the rope snapped and it stalled?

Generally if the sled wants to yank your arm off its flooded when you let it sit. I have almost lost a arm a few times for sure. Really just make sure it isnt binding. I have had the same old stock rope for 3 years no issues.

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Hudson

Well i just went out and took the recoil off, and i found the answer to that question. Looks like the thing literally imploded. Ripped half of the plastic that holds the rope off and it's currently stuck in the flywheel. Spring is mangled beyond repair, and a few parts are also still in the flywheel or totally missing. I guess i'm looking for a little more than some rope now.

I think the 10mm nut that holds all this together came loose and caused this to happen. I can't seem to think of anything else that would cause this. I guess i'll loctite it next time.

Sled stalled and then when i went to pull it over again (i just thought it stalled, didn't think any of this happened) the recoil just pulled out and was broken. I didn't discover what really happened until about 30 minutes ago.

Pictures tell a gruesome story. Think the engine is effected at all?

kccats

Rough! So nwhere are you located? I have a spare!

Hudson

A spare what? Snowmobile?

Connecticut. I don't know what you're shipping, but whatever it is i'll be more than glad to pay for shipping and whatever else you want.

joshkidner

I think he means a recoil housing. I doubt it did any engine damage.

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kccats

I have a recoil $50 shipped! I have a spare Race motor and pipes too!

Hudson

Is that put together and everything? I'll just have to unbox it and bolt it onto the sled?

Just out of curiosity, how much for the race motor and pipes? Not interested in them, just merely curious. Don't ride enough to need that.

kccats

Yep run the roap threw your hole tie a knot and heat it up and you're good to go!

Hudson

SOLD!.

PM me your paypal address please and you will have 50$ in it within 5 minutes of that PM.

Tree Trimmer

as for rope, you have several options.

a standard 6mm pull rope is good for around 5-700 lbs of break strength.

you can use boat anchor line as your pull rope, and that will get you into the 8-900 lb range.

then you get into my field of employment. tree trimmer

this line will get you 1650 lbs of break strength. https://www.knotandrope.com/store/pc...m#.UOHP3XfyhOY

i currently have a 5mm line as my pull rope that's good for a tad over 5000 lbs. this is what i use. https://www.knotandrope.com/store/pc...m#.UOHS0HfyhOY

friend that has climbed for well over 30 years, has used a different version of my rope in his sled for since '78. he buys a new sled, he just moves the rope to the new one.

its the sliding in the tube that goes over your brakes, that wears them out, and causes them to break. any pull rope out there, is not designed for that kind of friction. topped with the fact that your never pulling straight out the end of the tube, always sideways add lots additional friction.

also, if you look at the pull rope you had. it had the black diamonds. that is a lower quality, than the red. in reality, when looking for a rope, your looking for a jacketed rope. the jacket will at the least, make the rope last 6x longer.

also, when the diamonds wear out, and the rope looks all the same color, it's wore out, replace it.

for you guys that get a pull rope all the same color. when it starts to look fuzzy those are strands that are breaking. you would be suprised how few broken strands it takes, to lose well over half the available strength of the rope.

and if the sled was running, when the recoil rope broke, when it whipped in there, it probably got snagged on a little burr, and then because the sled was running, unwound itself, wrapped itself up, and caused itself to explode.

i had a chainsaw do the exact same thing yours did. mine broke about 3 inches from the handle, and wound itself up, and exploded the recoil case off the side of the saw.

your case is more stout than mine was. it contained everything.

also as a side note. if when you pull the rope, and you pull it all the way till it stops, that will cut the life of the rope in half. when you stop pulling, you need more rope that you could have pulled, if that makes sense. i wont get into it, it involves dynamic vs static pull on a rope. it's kinda involved.

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