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Old 06-23-2012, 07:00 AM   #41 (permalink)
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And don't forget the wieght differences and the rolling resistance!
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:34 AM   #42 (permalink)
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If yoor not sure on how to transfer it to the kart look it up on YouTube to get some ideas. I wish you luck bro, that motor is a little much for that and is wicked.
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Old 06-23-2012, 10:06 AM   #43 (permalink)
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And don't forget the wieght differences and the rolling resistance!
the additional speed he gets from being lighter, will get off set by horrible aerodynamics, less he puts some sort of body on it.

the additional speed he gets from having four wheels, instead of sliding two ski's, will get off set because air at 125+ gets exponentially harder to cut the faster you go.

this was our experience.

you need a seat with a head rest as well. using a full face helmet, will start to bend you neck over the back of the seat, if you dont have something to stop it.
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:18 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I know we are kinda getting off the original question of getting a cyl off.
But one other thing I did was to use a Geo Metro radiator and fan it has like 1" inlet and outlets!
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:17 PM   #45 (permalink)
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the op started it.

he has gotten them off, it sounded like, and when he did, decided he didnt want to put it back in the sled.

thats what i got out of it.

JEGS Racing Radiators - JEGS

this is the one we used. JEGS Dragster/Roadster Style Racing Radiator
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:38 PM   #46 (permalink)
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cant i just use the existing sleds coolant setup?
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:40 PM   #47 (permalink)
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cant i just use the existing sleds coolant setup?

yeah currently the tires in the rear are about 15-16" tall altogether. They are extreme off road tires with tons of grip. The stock go kart sprocket has 53 teeth i believe and the other has like around 10. im guessing that combination isnt going to work though. ill most likely get the rear one to be 70+teeth. and the other one around 25-35 teeth?
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:04 AM   #48 (permalink)
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cant i just use the existing sleds coolant setup?
unfortunately no.

you have to remember, your existing coolant system is designed to have SNOW thrown at it, to cool it.

i dont forsee you having that, when you plan on riding this toy.

there fore, you need to make up for that.

take a motor, designed to be rode in WINTER, and make it rideable in the SUMMER.

that cooler i posted, was not enough to ride our kart, longer than about 20 mins, before heat became a problem.

the cooling passages in sled motors are designed to be small. if they were large, riding in the sub zero temps would freeze them, and the motor would never build any heat.

it would be like riding around, with a sled that never hit operating temp, and there would be no point in letting it warm up, as it NEVER would.

this is another issue you have to overcome.

see why i said its goin to take alot of funds to make this work like you want it to?

the rad i posted, is on the small side of what your goin to need, and you will need a fan that moves a HUGE amount of air to cool it.

a simple drive around and let the air blow through it will not work.

i got a good deal on one of these. Troyer Performance i had the cfm, i just needed to step up to a larger radiator or another radiator.

i was goin to run two of those radiators, in series back to back, with a special shroud for them, so that one set of fans would blow through both radiators, and i would not lose flow between them.

this is why i went with that radiator. i knew when i bought it, it was a toss up whether or not it was big enough, and if it was not, i could run two together, because the rad uses -AN fittings, so all the looping would be a breeze.
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:09 AM   #49 (permalink)
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The Geo radiator/fan worked and even had the right size openings and can be had for about $40-50!
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for a tcat motor, in summer, on a kart??

not on ours.

we stopped when our coolant temp was about 205-10*

bout 20 mins
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Old 06-24-2012, 06:22 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Cooling temp could have gona to 230 if you were raceing it!
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if i was racing it yes, i very well wold have run it hotter.

but for the longevity of the motor, and for a play toy, we stopped there.

we ran one time past 210*. we wanted to see if it would stop before 230*. seeing if we had enough radiator. it hit 220* and kept climbing. we decided, for the safety and longevity of the motor, we would stop at 210*.

in anything short of a racing situation, we couldnt see any benefit of running it hotter, short of that extra 5-10 mins of riding time. to us that was not worth it.

now this was in july. if it was cooler outside, we could have ran it longer, as ambient would have been cooler.
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hey thanks for the help on those issues..

now today i was going thrugh the sled and i also thought of the other "problem." Electrical issues. My question is, what exactly DO i need and what DONT i need. I know there has to be that connection somehow to get the motor started in the first place (not sure even how this sled does/did that) and then besides that, there are all the other wires (the one that connects to the coolant piece, the 4 prong connector (probably a main guy) that leads out of the motor...etc) Im really not sure what to use and not use
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By the time you get it going, it will be winter. Might as well put it back in the sled and ride it
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:58 PM   #55 (permalink)
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The 4 way has the yellows that are your charging system! The brown is the kill and the black is ground. The 3 way goes to the cdi box.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:04 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Anybody know what that piece circled in black is called? I broke the tip accidentally, and cant search for a replacement because i dont know what the exact name is called. It connects to a gas line which goes to the cylinders. Thanks.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:41 PM   #57 (permalink)
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I want to say it is called a banjo oil fitting
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:06 PM   #58 (permalink)
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check valve.

just bought two.
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:13 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Banjo!!
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Old 07-05-2012, 06:36 AM   #60 (permalink)
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It is called a Banjo Fitting and the bolt is hollow and has one hole in it to flow the oil through..
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