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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-18-2010, 09:12 PM Thread Starter
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What would cause all headlights to go out

When i bought my 2003 440 Sno Pro all 4 headlights (highs and lows) were burnt out and so was the taillight. I bought all new bulbs and on the 2nd time starting the low beams burnt out.

Would this be caused by the voltage regulator? If so why wouldn't the taillight and high beams go out?
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Replace the regulator and then test all the grounds too.

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Break light and the high beams aren't completing a circuit unless you have them on when the voltage spikes


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First and foremost, ANY element don't care what TYPE of voltage you pass through it !!!!
You simply EXCEEDED the wattage of the elements ? So how does that happen ?... Well your voltage regulator isn't doing it's job ?.. (but more importantly, what do you think ?)

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Your voltage regulator must be shot! It could have sent voltage threw the ground?
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No KC it couldn't have sent voltage through the ground.?. This should be a square wave and reality is you exceeded your wattage !... (at least that's what I think ?)... LOL

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What exactly is a square wave?
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.......................... This should be a square wave and reality is you exceeded your wattage !... (at least that's what I think ?)... LOL
No. it would be a sine wave as it is unmodulated.

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Yes RJ, opps too much Brandi !!.. (LOL) I meant to say sine wave and NOT square wave.

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I found a used one on ebay for 30$. Now the tricky part is gonna be getting it out and the new one in....Weird, when i look up my machine on like a parts list thing it doesn't show the voltage regulator anywhere, electrics or headlights and all that.
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Ya on the polaris they are usually on the right side.. But on my doo 440x its actually up on the bulkhead on the right side. Its kinda by the steering arms and almost under the engine.
(I found some others talking this issue so I thought I would send their words along for you ?)

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I'm pretty sure mine is right next to the clutch, what the first pic shows.
I also have all this stuff in the front but i don't think any of it is the voltage regulator.
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What exactly is a square wave?
it's how the voltage comes out. when graphed a sine wave is curved (sinusoidal) the square wave jumps from peak to peak (AC)

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I looked it over again and i found something, i think the secondary was rubbing on the wires because it either melted half way through some wires or else it rubbed into it halfway. I'm gonna buy a new regulator and go from there.
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I'll just be glad when we can all go back to riding. RJ and KC have more than 35,000 combined posts- I really value their opinions.

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