they are nice sleds if you NEED elec start and reverse, but i think the f-5's are about the same price. if they are, i would get the f-5 because of the hp difference. f-5's have almost/over 20 hp more than the sabercat. you can probably get an f-5 with reverse for the same price as a sabercat with reverse and elec start. if you're thinking about those kind of sleds, also look into the polaris xcsp 500. those are some REAL nice sleds. i personally dont like the graphics on the sabercats. the '05 sabercats have some awesome graphics tho. i like that black sabercat ALOT more than the graphics on the new firecats. i still think the '04 f-cat graphics are the best so far.....maybe 'cause i have 1
