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Removing stator Help! 93 ext

Ok need remove the stator to replcae the lighting coil. What do i do? DO i need a special puller for the flywheel or is there any other way to remove it?

Any tips I should have before I start...

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1000.00 ebank bucks for help....
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You need a flywheel puller to get the flywheel off to get to the stator. Make sure when you remove the stator that you mark the location of the stator plate so you can put it back in the same orientation. Some stators have aligning marks, some don't. If yours doesn't, you could be fighting timing issues if you put it back incorrectly. A harmonic balancer puller may work, if you have one.

On the ZR's I had, it was possible to get the stator off without removing the engine, but that bottom bolt on the recoil is a PITA.

When you get the stator plate off, you will see where you can take the lighting coil off and replace it. It's hard to describe, but pretty easy to proceed once you have it in your hand.

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Dennis,
Look here Alpha Sports - Arctic Cat Snowmobile Catalog
look up your year/sled & go to the magneto section...great picture of what to expect/look for!!
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Thanks, will any flywheel puller work or do I need a sled specific one? Part will hopefully be here friday, so I am trying to get ready for the work.

Want to have a fairly good idea of my game plan before starting.
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Looks like you'll need a 3-bolt puller....like Dan said, a common one like a harmonic damper (rent/buy at auto parts store) puller will work. Just don't thread the bolts too far in where they'll tear up the stator & other parts inside!

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Exactly. A 3 bolt balancer puller is all you need. The magnets are STRONG! Expect to pull like hell!!

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Remove the flywheel nut (an impact works great) then the two washers, put the nut back on till it's flush. Once the puller is on and as tight as you can get it, hit the puller with a hamer! Retighten and hit again, it will pop and scare the hell out of you!
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10-4 on the above! Even when you KNOW it's coming!

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Great thanks guys.

Now I have another related question.

If the lighting coil is bad and I run the sled (say to omove it to the back yard to work on it,) will it damange the actual stator?

I am thinking yes, cause that is what I did and it died (bogged then died) and now wont start and no spark)

Ok one more thing,

also if it is the stator now, i see RMSTATOR is offering these Brand New Dual Ignition Stator Bobbins Stator - Rm Stator - Snowmobiles - Arctic Cat - EXT580 - KIT DE REPARATION DE STATOR DE EXT580

Now looking at the magneto diagram on the stator, it doesnt look like the two other stators shown on rmstator, with the coils all the way around it.

would those two bobbins thingys be what I would need for the sled?

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Ok one final question before I tear into this today.

Would a harmonic balancer puller work better then the big three jaw puller?
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Ok one final question before I tear into this today.

Would a harmonic balancer puller work better then the big three jaw puller?
Yes!! Just get the correct bolts to fit the flywheel!

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Great, thank you. Guess I better get to the gettin then, looks like we have snow comming tomarrow around here. 5-7"
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I ran my 94 580 without the lighting coil for about 200 miles before parts came and I fixed it. That did not affect the ignition coil at all.

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Ok guys, was lazy and didnt order the part yet and now have 10+" of snow.

What would happen if i put the coil back on the sled without the lighting coil itself intalled on the stator?

WOuld it still be ok just no lights? or would the balance be off to much?

Just looking for a feild run behind house for the daytime untill part gets here next week
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It'll be OK without lights if you are staying close to home and no night riding.

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Ok but just to clairify, there would be NO lighting coil installed on the stator, just the ing. coil assembly.

So that wouldnt throw off the balance of the whole thing and cause problems?
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No, that stator does not move in there.

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OMG I am a moron! AS I was reading that it hit me! That is the stationary part the fly wheel moves!! DUH!
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***Smacks Dennis upside the head***

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Well its a good thing I bought a whole stator assm, I think, put it all back together, minu the lighting coil and she dont fire now. Was running when i tore it down.

Jumpered the brn/black on the lighting side of the harness even,...
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