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11-06-2007, 06:58 PM
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Make my cat faster!
Any free cheap or reasonable mods I can do to my 95 zr700 to make it faster....I have only driven it from the driveway to the garage and couldnt keep the skis on the ground but i need something to mess with 
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1999 Powder Special 700 1500 miles
1999 Powder Special RIP
2003.5 Mountain Cat 900 Mod Sled
1998ish zr600 In the mad scientists garage getting some new guts and mods...Should be interestin. 
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11-07-2007, 08:15 AM
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Ther are ALOT that can be done! Start with the clutchs, air box, carbs, pipes, can, studs and then get into the motor! Where do you want to start?
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11-07-2007, 08:24 AM
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Reeds for throttle response. 
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04 FIRECAT F7 EFI Carbon Tech Reeds,Simmons Flex-Skis
05 FIRECAT F7 EFI W/Reverse,Black Magic can,air intake
Worthington Flip Top Trailer
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11-07-2007, 04:33 PM
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Loose Weight! Haha! JK!
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11-07-2007, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by coloradoman25
Any free cheap or reasonable mods I can do to my 95 zr700 to make it faster....I have only driven it from the driveway to the garage and couldnt keep the skis on the ground but i need something to mess with 
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Sounds like it's plenty fast, already!! To keep yourself busy, why not go through everything to make sure it is reliable (clutches, belt, hyfax's, bogie wheels, skid frame pivot points, etc). Look for stuff that could let you down out on the trail. It's a lot more fun to work on them in your garage in nice weather rather than on the trail when it's dark & -10* 
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11-07-2007, 06:00 PM
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Sconnie
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tell him (and me) some more about reeds please?
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1990 Skidoo Formula MX 470
1986 Ford Ranger 2.9L 4x4
3"body lift
3" Skyjacker suspension lift
35" by 12.5" Super Swampers on rims
dual custom exhaust
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11-07-2007, 09:00 PM
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Location: Green Bay, WI
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Cylinder reeds on this motor
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Originally Posted by jKsled
tell him (and me) some more about reeds please?
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Boyeson dual stage reeds are about all that is available aftermarket for this motor, as far as I could find when I mod'd mine. The reeds are not very large on this motor, and in my
opinion leave little room for improvement. I use them in both
of my 700-790 Wiseco bigbore motors. Don't know how much an improvement they are, but they are inexpensive (about 40 bucks)
so I use them.
As an aside, cylinder reed engines have been kind of poo- poo-d
in the past as not much better than piston port motors, but PSI
Racing has fairly recently come out with a cylinder reed top end and they point to some reasons why they have some unique advantages.
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11-07-2007, 09:04 PM
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Sconnie
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yeah, but what exactly are the reeds? where do they go
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~If you dont think it's bad @zz, then whats the point?~
1990 Skidoo Formula MX 470
1986 Ford Ranger 2.9L 4x4
3"body lift
3" Skyjacker suspension lift
35" by 12.5" Super Swampers on rims
dual custom exhaust
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11-08-2007, 12:11 AM
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Reeds go between the carb and the base of the engine. They act as a one way valve so that when the piston is on the down stroke, the gas mixture is forced up to the top of the piston rather than some being spit back through the carb.
This allows the smaller cc engines to produce more HP and have a crisper throttle response.
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11-08-2007, 12:19 AM
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I have en EFI though??
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Co Springs Co
1999 Powder Special 700 1500 miles
1999 Powder Special RIP
2003.5 Mountain Cat 900 Mod Sled
1998ish zr600 In the mad scientists garage getting some new guts and mods...Should be interestin. 
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11-08-2007, 12:25 AM
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Old Cat Rider
w/ Comet 108 Pro-4 clutch
80 PANTERA 500 F/C w/ Comet 102 clutch
'90 Wildcat Project in progress.
Trail Boss; Dryden to Summerhill trail.
http://www.dcdrifters.net/
Senior Deacon; F&AM Lodge# 472
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11-08-2007, 08:16 AM
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The old Wild Cat motor has a very small set of reeds, that are mounted from under the cyl! I put the boyseens in mine and I supose they helped? The only thing is you have to pull the jugs off to get at them! But while you're in there great time for some porting!!!
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11-09-2007, 02:12 PM
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Sconnie
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Mount Horeb, Wisconsin
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where would you buy the reeds from and how would you install them?
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~If you dont think it's bad @zz, then whats the point?~
1990 Skidoo Formula MX 470
1986 Ford Ranger 2.9L 4x4
3"body lift
3" Skyjacker suspension lift
35" by 12.5" Super Swampers on rims
dual custom exhaust
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11-09-2007, 02:23 PM
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For the record my sled has 946 miles on it...Its been gone through its reliable but I do appreciate and know the pain of trail repairs.
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Co Springs Co
1999 Powder Special 700 1500 miles
1999 Powder Special RIP
2003.5 Mountain Cat 900 Mod Sled
1998ish zr600 In the mad scientists garage getting some new guts and mods...Should be interestin. 
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11-10-2007, 07:56 AM
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Well if you really want more speed and power, follow KCCATS advice. Try Buy ATV Parts, Motorcycle Parts, Snowmobile Parts, and Watersports Parts, Accessories & Apparel @ Shade Tree Powersports J R Graham, Powersports Warehouse Hot Seat Performance
There are plenty more but i can't think of them
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Originally Posted by kccats
Ther are ALOT that can be done! Start with the clutchs, air box, carbs, pipes, can, studs and then get into the motor! Where do you want to start?
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11-10-2007, 01:03 PM
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Replacing reeds will not make a huge difference unless they are damaged or not closing completely.
A properly tuned drive train will make a bigger difference in the speed you get and reduce the loss of power due to worn, too tight, or mis-aligned components.
So, tune and clean the clutches, make sure that all the bearings are in good shape and well lubed. Check that the track is set at the minimum proper tension and is aligned properly.
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Old Cat Rider
w/ Comet 108 Pro-4 clutch
80 PANTERA 500 F/C w/ Comet 102 clutch
'90 Wildcat Project in progress.
Trail Boss; Dryden to Summerhill trail.
http://www.dcdrifters.net/
Senior Deacon; F&AM Lodge# 472
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11-10-2007, 03:44 PM
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always thought the 700s were piston port hence no reeds?
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11-10-2007, 03:56 PM
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Location: Green Bay, WI
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Cylinder reeds on this motor
Kind of like a hybrid between piston port and reed.
The carbs attach directly to the cylinders and shoot
mix directly into the cylinders like piston port motors, but have reeds at the bottom of the cylinders that cover the transfer ports, or at least a couple of the transfers.
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11-13-2007, 09:26 AM
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The reeds cover the side transfere ports, the rears are open. This why they are open to large HP gains in porting! I have a ported( amond other Mods) 88, It is the fastest year of that engine which spans into 2000! Most only make about 115hp Im at about 140.It's a good stong debendable motor, just not up todays twins!
Open up the transfere ports and knife edge them, get a set of Boyseens, Have the carbs bored to 42's, add the air intake doors, get a set of black magic pipes, mill .030 off the heads, add 5 grams to the clutch and put atleast a yellow green spring in the drive clutch and give it a try.
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11-13-2007, 12:37 PM
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a little wary of milling heads...milled my 580 by a known arctic cat performance shop.. turned out to be the root cause why it blew up 3 times...
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