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12-07-2006, 10:29 PM
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Rice Burner
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: wego
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K&N air filters
i have an 81 el tigre 6000 and am i able to take out my stock air filter box and just put some K&N air filters directly mounted to the carbs
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12-08-2006, 12:33 AM
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Wants to see snow
Join Date: Nov 2006
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You most likely can but I think you will be taking a chance on them iceing over
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12-08-2006, 04:26 AM
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If you put them on, you will also need to rejet.
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80 PANTERA 500 F/C w/ Comet 102 clutch
'90 Wildcat Project in progress.
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12-08-2006, 07:30 AM
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King of the Universe
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Rochester Hizzle, MI
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The stock air box is tuned for your specific engine, both for sound & flow. Unless you just like to spend money, don't expect any performance gains.........it may run worse, since you'll change the air flow. Think twice!!
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12-08-2006, 09:34 AM
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My firt perf mod was an81 tiger. Removing the air box wont really help a hole lot by it's self. Bigger twin pipes, 38 flowed carbs and alittle off the head would help. With some porting I did achieve 100 mph with mine out on Lake Tomahawk
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12-08-2006, 02:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ALLISTON ONTARIO
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plus you have to be cleaning and re-oiling them too just like a dirtbike filter, i was thinking about putting one on my sled because my air filter the mice decided to chew a hole through it, but decided to stay stock after finding this out... its a pain in the ass to do. especially in the winter when they will freeze instead of drying anywhere.
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12-08-2006, 08:43 PM
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King of the Universe
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Don't need air filters on mine since I usually ride in the snow..........not much dust in the air!! 
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12-08-2006, 10:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Green Bay, WI
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removing air box
I removed the airbox on my 92 Wildcat and put on KickAss brand filters. Why? I went to some grass drags as a spectator and almost all the racers had the airboxes off and filters on the carbs. Probably because they were racing on dirt! So I thought that if they all had them, I had to have them too.
So I bought some and put them on my Wildcat. Also made a lot of other mods at the same time- PSI pipes, custom cut 790 triple exhaust port overbore cylinders, Boyeson Reeds, high compression heads, heelclicker clutch kit, roller secondary conversion, and some carb mods. After all this, the sled has a very temperamental low and mid range, is kind of a pain at trail speeds, but goes like hell wide open at 8500rpms.
Hard to tell what exactly made the sled so boggy or sluggish
at low rpms- probably a combination of a lot of things, but
I always suspected the lack of airbox had something to do with it. Probably a good idea for wide open running or racing- but not probably the greatest idea for trail riding.
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12-09-2006, 08:59 AM
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Sound like your wild cat had more of a clutch isue!
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12-09-2006, 10:58 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Green Bay, WI
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Originally Posted by kccats
Sound like your wild cat had more of a clutch isue!
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Very probable. Which brings us to what should probably be a new thread- Adjustable flyweight tuning. I put a straight
44 degree helix in the secondary as suggested by the manufacturer of the weights, and adjusted the flyweights so that under WOT the rpms stayed between 8200 and 8500 from take off to top end speed. So clutch is supposed to be tuned- as far as the manual says. But at less than WOT, the sled bogs at under 6500rpms and under about 50mph. Is there something I am missing on tuning the clutch? (I am using the white-stiff spring supplied by Heelclicker people in the primary)
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12-09-2006, 11:18 AM
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EFI or carbed in the wildcat?
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Old Cat Rider
w/ Comet 108 Pro-4 clutch
80 PANTERA 500 F/C w/ Comet 102 clutch
'90 Wildcat Project in progress.
Trail Boss; Dryden to Summerhill trail.
http://www.dcdrifters.net/
Senior Deacon; F&AM Lodge# 472
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12-09-2006, 03:33 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Green Bay, WI
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Originally Posted by RJ Gleason
EFI or carbed in the wildcat?
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Carbed. Changed needle jets from A4 to Z7 or Z6 and needle to custom PSI needle that gives more middle flow for their pipes.
Pilots are 45's, if I recall correctly, Mains 390's or thereabouts. Discovered a sticky enricher which made mag side run rich, haven't run since I corrected the enricher.
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12-09-2006, 08:17 PM
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Perhaps thighten the driven spring one notch to raise the RPM through out the range and liten the wieghts to get the max rpm where it pulls the strongest, and double check the belt diflection. The rear needs to out of the rear as much as it can take.
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12-13-2006, 06:44 PM
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Location: ALLISTON ONTARIO
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Originally Posted by IndianRvrShiver
Don't need air filters on mine since I usually ride in the snow..........not much dust in the air!! 
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i don't know about you but i like to keep the snow/water out of my fuel system also...
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"slidin rear, back window, so it's an easy reach to where my cooler keeps 'em iced down cold"
truck- 1998 chevy 1500 extended cab 4X4 Z71 package fully loaded 5.7L vortec
sled- 1989 Polaris Indy 500 Special (blue clutch spring) FOR SALE!!!!!
bikes- 2000 Honda 300 Fourtrax 4X4 (winch)
2007 Honda CRF 230
2003 Honda CRF 230
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